├── .github └── ISSUE_TEMPLATE │ ├── meeting.md │ └── task-force.md ├── CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md ├── LICENSE ├── MEMBER_EXPECTATIONS.md ├── PROCESS.md ├── README.md ├── WORKING_MODE.md └── meetings ├── 2019-01-29.md ├── 2019-03-05.md ├── 2019-03-f2f.md ├── 2019-05-20.md ├── 2019-06-03.md ├── 2019-06-17.md ├── 2019-07-01.md ├── 2019-07-29.md ├── 2019-08-12.md ├── 2019-08-26.md ├── 2019-09-09.md ├── 2019-09-23.md ├── 2019-10-08.md ├── 2019-10-21.md ├── 2019-11-04.md ├── 2019-12-02.md ├── 2019-12-16.md ├── 2020-01-13.md ├── 2020-01-27.md ├── 2020-02-10.md ├── 2020-02-24.md ├── 2020-03-09.md ├── 2020-03-23.md ├── 2020-04-06.md ├── 2020-04-20.md ├── 2020-05-04.md ├── 2020-05-18.md ├── 2020-06-01.md ├── 2020-06-15.md ├── 2020-06-29.md ├── 2020-07-13.md ├── 2020-08-10.md ├── 2020-08-24.md ├── 2020-09-21.md ├── 2020-10-05.md ├── 2020-10-19.md ├── 2020-11-02.md ├── 2020-11-16.md ├── 2020-11-30.md ├── 2020-12-14.md ├── 2021-01-11.md ├── 2021-01-12.md ├── 2021-01-25.md ├── 2021-01-28.md ├── 2021-02-08.md ├── 2021-02-09.md ├── 2021-02-22.md ├── 2021-02-23.md ├── 2021-03-08.md ├── 2021-03-09.md ├── 2021-03-22.md ├── 2021-03-23.md ├── 2021-04-05.md ├── 2021-04-06.md ├── 2021-05-03.md ├── 2021-05-04.md ├── 2021-05-17.md ├── 2021-05-18.md ├── 2021-06-14.md ├── 2021-06-15.md └── images └── triangle.png /.github/ISSUE_TEMPLATE/meeting.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | --- 2 | name: Meeting Agenda/Notes 3 | about: Used to track the agenda for AC meetings 4 | title: AC Meeting 2021-MM-DD/DD 5 | labels: 'AC Meeting' 6 | assignees: '' 7 | 8 | --- 9 | 10 | # Logistics 11 | 12 | ## Meeting time 13 | 14 | 25 | 26 | Region | Date | Time (UTC) | Local time 27 | -|-|-|- 28 | Americas & EMEA | Monday, MONTH DD | 5pm UTC / 6pm UTC | [See it in your timezone](https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=AMP+AC+Americas%2FEMEA&iso=2021MMDDT17&ah=1) / [See it in your timezone](https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=AMP+AC+Americas%2FEMEA&iso=2021MMDDT18&ah=1) 29 | EMEA & APAC | Tuesday, MONTH DD | 11am UTC | [See it in your timezone](https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=AMP+AC+EMEA%2FAPAC&iso=2021MMDDT11&ah=1) 30 | 31 | ## Video conferencing details 32 | 33 | Zoom Meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88232401009?pwd=NnRiNTFZeFAvMU5uMnVGZk5tNi9Tdz09 34 | Meeting ID: 88232401009 35 | Password: 301196 36 | Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/avfhv6bQL 37 | 38 | _Note: We use the same conferencing details for both meetings._ 39 | 40 | # Agenda 41 | 42 | * Approve last call's minutes. 43 | * Check roster for [TSC meeting](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-tsc/labels/TSC%20Meeting). 44 | * Check roster for [Design reviews](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/labels/Type%3A%20Design%20Review). 45 | * ... 46 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 47 | 48 | *Note: Add a comment on this issue to propose items for the agenda.* 49 | 50 | # Minutes 51 | 52 | * [Google doc (scratchpad for minute taking)](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xCL3XpBuMVUhWfLZKOVg8K0Wtlq8P3VYwSGTpNQOQeY/edit) 53 | * [Americas/EMEA minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/meetings/2021-MM-DD.md) 54 | * [EMEA/APAC minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/meetings/2021-MM-DD.md) 55 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /.github/ISSUE_TEMPLATE/task-force.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | --- 2 | name: 'Propose a new task force' 3 | about: 'Used to propose a new task force to the AC and track its progress' 4 | title: '[NAME] Task Force' 5 | labels: 'task force' 6 | assignees: '' 7 | --- 8 | 9 | ### Focus 10 | 11 | 15 | 16 | ### Facilitator 17 | 18 | [NAME] ([GITHUBHANDLE]) 19 | 20 | ### Members 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | * [NAME] ([GITHUBHANDLE])_ 25 | * [NAME] ([GITHUBHANDLE])_ 26 | * … 27 | 28 | ### Deliverables 29 | 30 | * [DELIVERABLE] 31 | 32 | ### End date 33 | 34 | [END DATE] 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | --- 39 | 40 | - [ ] Creation approved by the AC on [APPROVAL DATE] 41 | - [ ] Recommendations submitted to the AC on [END DATE] 42 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | See https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md 2 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /MEMBER_EXPECTATIONS.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # Member Expectations 2 | 3 | This document outlines the expecations for participating in the AMP Advisory Committee (AC). 4 | 5 | ### About the Role 6 | 7 | The high-level role of an AC member is to: 8 | 9 | * Raise high-level direction and strategic technical questions to the Technical Steering Committee (TSC). 10 | * Provide guideance and feedback on the direction of the project, its goals and values. 11 | * Bring domain perspective, real-world use cases, and experiences to project working groups and decision makers. 12 | * Identify and champion user voices, helping to surface their feedback to the right group(s) to solve user issues. 13 | * Suggest opportunities for the project to further advance its mission or expand its community. 14 | * Contribute discussion topics or areas of inquiry. 15 | 16 | ### Time Commitments 17 | * ~1 hour every other week for meetings 18 | * ~45 minutes every other week to review agendas, meeting minutes, and other preparatory documents, or respond to emails. 19 | * ~1 hour per week to advance or champion issues, respond to discussions, etc. 20 | * Participate in 1-2 AMP Summits per year 21 | 22 | ### Expectations 23 | 24 | * Regularly attend the bi-weekly AC meeting. 25 | * Occasionally attend TSC, Design, or other Working Group meetings. 26 | * Raise issues from your industry or community, and follow our [Stakeholder Input Process](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/PROCESS.md#stakeholder-input-process) to advance them. 27 | * Hold good-faith discussions and present alternative view points about technical topics in AMP. 28 | * Volunteer to champion issues and take on tasks, with support & input from other AC members. 29 | * Track work, progress and outcomes on the AC's repository and issue tracker. 30 | * Share news, discussion items, request feedback, or share other project messages where applicable and appropriate. 31 | * Identify other potential candidates for AC or TSC membership during member election periods. 32 | 33 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /PROCESS.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # Process Document 2 | 3 | This document captures some of the administrative processes used to manage the AC in accordance with its [working mode](./WORKING_MODE.md). 4 | 5 | 6 | ## Stakeholder Input Process 7 | 8 | Steps to take when an AC work item has been identified: 9 | 10 | - [ ] New issue is raised by stakeholder 11 | - [ ] Brought to the AC for discussion 12 | - [ ] The AC identifies clear desired outcomes for the issue 13 | - [ ] Issue is assigned to a champion (if no champion signs up, the issue is closed until a champion steps up) 14 | - [ ] Champion brings issue to the TSC and/or the relevant Working Groups (WG), either by filing an issue or joining a meeting 15 | - [ ] Champion drives the issue to resolution in collaboration with TSC/WG and stakeholder 16 | - [ ] Issue is brought back to the AC which recognizes desired outcomes have been reached, approves alternative outcomes, or suggests remediations 17 | - [ ] Issue resolution is documented 18 | - [ ] Resolution is published on the AMP blog 19 | 20 | 21 | ## Adding or Removing AC Members 22 | 23 | Steps to take when bringing in (or saying farewell) to AC reps: 24 | 25 | ### Onboarding Checklist 26 | 27 | - [ ] Add member to AC mailing list 28 | - [ ] Add member to ampproject organization on GitHub 29 | - [ ] Add member to AC team on GitHub 30 | - [ ] Add member to recurring meeting calendar invite 31 | - [ ] Update /meta-ac README 32 | - [ ] Update Roster Spreadsheet 33 | - [ ] Add member to the meeting notes template 34 | - [ ] Add member to the AMP Slack Workspace and the #amp-ac channel 35 | - [ ] Invite member for an onboarding meeting to get up to speed on current AC activities 36 | - [ ] Once added, send welcome email to the AC list for introductions 37 | 38 | ### Off-boarding Checklist 39 | - [ ] Remove member from AC mailing list 40 | - [ ] Remove member from AC team on GitHub 41 | - [ ] Remove member from recurring meeting calendar invite 42 | - [ ] Update /meta-ac README 43 | - [ ] Update Roster Spreadsheet 44 | - [ ] Remove member from the meeting notes template 45 | - [ ] Farewell & contact update email for AC reps to maintain friendships/connections 46 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /README.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # Repository of the AMP Advisory Committee 2 | 3 | The AMP Advisory Committee (AC) provides perspective and advice to the Technical Steering Committee (TSC). 4 | 5 | - [Our role](https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md#advisory-committee-ac) 6 | - [Our working mode](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/WORKING_MODE.md) 7 | - [Member expectations](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/MEMBER_EXPECTATIONS.md) 8 | - [Code of conduct](https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md) 9 | - [Meeting minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/tree/master/meetings) 10 | - [Upcoming meetings][meetings] 11 | 12 | ## Members: 13 | 14 | - Daniel Walmsley - [@gravityrail](https://github.com/gravityrail) _(interim)_ 15 | - Faizan Siddiqi - [@SiddiqiFaizan](https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan) 16 | - Guilherme Moser de Souza - [@gui-poa](https://github.com/gui-poa) 17 | - Jett Jackson - [@j-tt](https://github.com/j-tt) 18 | - Joe Alicata - [@wirelessjoe](https://github.com/wirelessjoe) 19 | - Jono Alderson - [@jono-alderson](https://github.com/jono-alderson) 20 | - Kenji Baheux - [@kenjibaheux](https://github.com/kenjibaheux) 21 | - Michael Chun - [@michaelwomple](https://github.com/michaelwomple) _(interim)_ 22 | - Pablo Delgado - [@pdelgadorodriguez](https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez) 23 | - Senthil Padmanabhan - [@senthilp](https://github.com/senthilp) 24 | - Sumantro Das - [@sumodas](https://github.com/sumodas) 25 | - Tom Chandler - [@tpchandler](https://github.com/tpchandler) 26 | - Tobie Langel - [@tobie](https://github.com/tobie) _(facilitator)_ 27 | 28 | Github team: https://github.com/orgs/ampproject/teams/ac. 29 | 30 | If you are interested in becoming a member of the AC and want to make sure you are informed of upcoming elections, please [fill-in this form][form]. 31 | 32 |
33 | Past members 34 | 35 | - Ali Ghassemi - [@aghassemi](https://github.com/aghassemi) 36 | - Brian Howard - [@brianwhoward](https://github.com/brianwhoward) _(interim)_ 37 | - Candice Gleason - [@candice-womp](https://github.com/candice-womp) 38 | - Charles Vazac - [@cvazac](https://github.com/cvazac) 39 | - Dane Knecht - [@dknecht](https://github.com/dknecht) 40 | - David Merrell - [@dymerrell](https://github.com/dymerrell) 41 | - Elisa Budelli - [@elibud](https://github.com/elibud) 42 | - Graham Loh - [@grahamle](https://github.com/grahamle) 43 | - Jeremy Keith - [@adactio](https://github.com/adactio) 44 | - Jervay Singh - [@jervay](https://github.com/jervay) 45 | - Julie Bacon - [@baconjulie](https://github.com/baconjulie) 46 | - Kelsey Johnson - [@kelseyjohnson8](https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8) 47 | - Léonie Watson - [@LJWatson](https://github.com/LJWatson) 48 | - Levi Durfee - [@levidurfee](https://github.com/levidurfee) 49 | - Maggie Wettergreen - [@mjwettergreen](https://github.com/mjwettergreen) 50 | - Marissa Halpert - [@marissa-halpert](https://github.com/marissa-halpert) 51 | - Melanie Sumner - [@melsumner](https://github.com/melsumner) 52 | - Melissa DePuydt - [@msteffan](https://github.com/msteffan) 53 | - Nicole Sullivan - [@stubbornella](https://github.com/stubbornella) 54 | - Ted Shuter - [@TedShuter](https://github.com/TedShuter) 55 | - Terence Eden - [@edent](https://github.com/edent) 56 | - Tim Jones - [@tones](https://github.com/tones) 57 | 58 |
59 | 60 | ## Communication Channels 61 | 62 | We use the following channels to communicate: 63 | 64 | - **This GitHub repository.** This is where you will find most of our work happening. Feel free to [comment on exisiting issues][issues] or [file a new one][new-issue] if you have questions or issues you want to raise with the AC. 65 | - **The [#amp-ac][slack-channel] channel on the amphtml Slack workspace.** If you aren't a member of the amphtml workspace, enter your email address on the [AMP Developer Slack Signup form][slack-signup] to get invited to the Slack workspace, from which you'll be able to join the [#amp-ac][slack-channel] channel. 66 | - **Fortnightly video conferences.** These video conferences are open to external guests. You will find a link to the video conference on the meeting agenda under the [AC Meetings label][meetings]. Currently we use zoom.us for these conferences. 67 | - **F2F Meetings.** These are open to external guests provided they register in advance. Specifics TBA. 68 | - **A [private mailing list][mailing-list].** We use this mailing to coordinate logistical matters and share privacy sensitive information. 69 | 70 | [meetings]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/labels/AC%20Meeting 71 | [issues]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues 72 | [new-issue]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/new 73 | [slack-channel]: https://amphtml.slack.com/messages/amp-ac/ 74 | [slack-signup]: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd83J2IZA6cdR6jPwABGsJE8YL4pkypAbKMGgUZZriU7Qu6Tg/viewform?fbzx=4406980310789882877 75 | [mailing-list]: https://groups.google.com/a/ampproject.org/forum/#!forum/ac 76 | [form]: https://forms.gle/nv5pg1jTH2HySr9u8 77 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /WORKING_MODE.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # Working mode of the AMP Advisory Committee (AC) 2 | 3 | 4 | ## Goal of the AC 5 | 6 | Make AMP a great web citizen. 7 | 8 | ## Membership 9 | 10 | The duration of a term is one year. The year starts on November 1st, regardless of when a member joined the AC. 11 | 12 | There is no limit to the number of terms a member can do. 13 | 14 | Two months before the end of the term year, members in "good standing"—those who have showed commitment to meeting [member expectations](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/MEMBER_EXPECTATIONS.md) accounting for their personal and professional context—will be asked to rejoin. Members are under no obligation to do so. 15 | 16 | ### Election 17 | 18 | The Current AC members approve any new AC member through the [consensus based process][consensus]. 19 | 20 | It is the AC's duty to ensure the AC is as representative and diverse as possible. When AC membership places are available, AC members commit to proactively reaching out to groups who are not currently represented. 21 | 22 | ### Resignation 23 | 24 | Members may resign at any time by advising the facilitator in written of their desire to do so. 25 | 26 | Resigning members may nominate a candidate to replace them, subject to the AC's consideration. Should the nominee be accepted by the AC, they will join the AC as an _interim member_ until the end of the current term or the next election cycle, whichever comes first. _Interim members_ who wish to continue to participate in the AC beyond this point and join it as a regular member will need to apply for a seat during the following election cycle. 27 | 28 | ## Representation 29 | 30 | Members are representing themselves, not their employer. For more information about AC member expectations, please see [Member Expectations](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/MEMBER_EXPECTATIONS.md). 31 | 32 | 33 | ## Conflict of interest 34 | 35 | Members should disclose who their employer or clients are to avoid conflicts of interest, via a private mailing list if necessary. 36 | 37 | Members should recuse themselves from decisions where proprietary interests might interfere with their judgment. 38 | 39 | 40 | ## Working mode 41 | 42 | All proceedings are public. 43 | 44 | AC advice to the [Technical Sterring Committee (TSC)][TSC] is non-binding. 45 | 46 | 47 | ## Facilitator 48 | 49 | The AC has a [facilitator][]. Their role is to help organize discussions and drive them towards consensus. 50 | 51 | The facilitator organizes meetings, publishes the meeting agenda, keeps a tab on the open issues, etc. 52 | 53 | The facilitator generally acts as a liaison with the TSC. 54 | 55 | The facilitator is responsible for making sure everyone feels welcomed and heard, and enforcing the code of conduct if necessary. 56 | 57 | 58 | ## Task forces 59 | 60 | A task force can be formed by a group of AC members who wish to focus on a particular topic for a fixed (generally short) period of time. 61 | 62 | A task force must have a [facilitator][], an area of focus, a set of deliverables, and an end date at which it presents its recommendations to the AC or requests to be renewed. 63 | 64 | A task force may include non-AC members. Its proceedings are public. 65 | 66 | Task forces do not have any decision making authority. They only provide recommendations to the AC. 67 | 68 | 69 | ## Activities 70 | 71 | Goals: 72 | 73 | * Async communication. 74 | * GitHub-based. 75 | * Allows for varying degree of involvement. 76 | 77 | In practice: 78 | 79 | * Discuss GitHub issues filed on this repository (from fellow AC members, the TSC, [working groups (WG)][WG], [end-users][end-user], etc.). 80 | * Review of [intent to implement issues (I2I)][I2I] either on the I2I itself or in a specific issue. 81 | * Advice and discussions on topics brought up by the TSC. 82 | * Publication of “opinions” on specific topics (audience: TSC, [collaborators][collaborator], but also platform implementers, devs, etc.). 83 | * [Task forces](#task-forces) to work on specific projects (proceedings must also be public). 84 | * Video conferences and calls as needed, potentially in sub-committees (to account for the size of the AC). Notes are public. 85 | * Liaison with standards organizations and groups ([W3C][], [WHATWG][], [WICG][], [IETF][], etc.). 86 | * Two single-day face to face meetings per year, aligned (if possible) with [AMP Conf][amp-conf] and AMP Contributor Summit. 87 | 88 | ## Decision making 89 | 90 | Consensus-based as [described in the governance policy][consensus]. 91 | 92 | *** 93 | 94 | _Inspired by 95 | [W3C TAG](https://www.w3.org/2004/10/27-tag-charter.html), 96 | [MDN PAB](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/MDN_Product_Advisory_Board/Membership) 97 | [OSI Board](https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Main/OSI+Board+of+Directors/Responsibilities+of+the+Board), 98 | [Web Platform WG](https://github.com/w3c/WebPlatformWG/blob/gh-pages/WorkMode.md), and 99 | [Node.js Comm Comm](https://github.com/nodejs/community-committee)._ 100 | 101 | 102 | [W3C]: https://www.w3.org/ 103 | [WHATWG]: https://whatwg.org/ 104 | [WICG]: https://wicg.github.io/admin/charter.html 105 | [IETF]: https://www.ietf.org/ 106 | 107 | [consensus]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md#decision-making-policy 108 | [TSC]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md#technical-steering-committee-tsc 109 | [facilitator]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md#user-content-facilitator 110 | [collaborator]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md#user-content-collaborator 111 | [end-user]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md#user-content-end-user 112 | [WG]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md#working-groups 113 | [I2I]: https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#contributing-a-new-feature-concept--design-phase 114 | 115 | [amp-conf]: https://www.ampproject.org/amp-conf/ 116 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-01-29.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # AC Meeting #1 2019-01-29 2 | 3 | **Agenda:** https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/4 4 | 5 | **Facilitator:** @tobie 6 | 7 | ## Attendees: 8 | 9 | * @tobie 10 | * @tones 11 | * @cvazac 12 | * @senthilp 13 | * @wirelessjoe 14 | * @dymerrell 15 | * @pdelgadorodriguez 16 | * @elibud 17 | * @edent 18 | * @levidurfee 19 | * @sumodas 20 | * @gui-poa 21 | 22 | ## Excused: 23 | 24 | * @LJWatson 25 | * @stubbornella 26 | * @dknecht 27 | 28 | # Minutes 29 | 30 | ## Housekeeping 31 | 32 | * Trying HackMD for collaborative minute taking, reverting to google docs if it doesn't work well. 33 | * FYI that we're operating under the [AMP code of conduct ](https://github.com/ampproject/meta/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md). 34 | * Update on the [CLA changes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta/pull/15/files) as it impacts AC members directly. 35 | * Reminded members to join the mailing list and GitHub org and team (@ampproject/ac). 36 | 37 | ## Privacy vs. openness 38 | 39 | Where do we draw the line? ([issue #10](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/10)). 40 | 41 | * Might stifle discussion to have everything recorded and shared. 42 | * Might be worth inviting people to observe but not participate. 43 | * Shared video is good for sharing information - but not good for decision making and exploration of ideas. 44 | 45 | #### Resolution 46 | 47 | * Videos to be recorded for AC Members, and for future reference, but not for public sharing. 48 | * However, anyone can request to join the video conference. 49 | 50 | ### Does anyone need help with GitHub? 51 | 52 | * Reach out to @tobie if you need help. 53 | 54 | ## Video conf meetings 55 | 56 | * Seems to work well. No tech issues reported. 57 | * Monthly frequency to start with. 58 | * Change frequency if necessary. 59 | * Timezones will always be a problem. 60 | 61 | #### Actions: 62 | - [x] @tobie to handle scheduling. 63 | 64 | ## F2F 65 | 66 | * Useful to meet AFK 67 | * Original plan to meet in NYC - but this is not ideal because of plan for fall NYC summit 68 | * Easily able to host in London thanks to Akamai 69 | * Or Tokyo to combine with TSC. 70 | * Brexit concerns - don't want to meet too close to the end of March. 71 | * Also suggested Google IO (May in CA, USA). 72 | 73 | #### Resolutions: 74 | * No plans to meet around AMPConf in Tokyo. 75 | * We'll meet in London if we have enough interested parties. 76 | * We'll consider meeting around Google I/O if sufficently many people are planning to go. 77 | * We'll hold a meeting around the Contributor Summit in NYC in the fall (date pending). 78 | 79 | #### Actions: 80 | - [x] @tobie to send doodle for London meeting. 81 | 82 | ## Pending issues: 83 | 84 | ### Approve working mode (#2) 85 | 86 | #### Actions: 87 | - [x] AC Members to review the pull request and comment, approve, or +1 it. 88 | 89 | ### Horizontal reviews and vertical concerns (#5) (#8) 90 | 91 | - [issue #5](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/5) 92 | - [issue #8](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/8) 93 | 94 | - These issues seem to share the same infrastructure and process requirements. 95 | - @cvazac suggests using labels or issue/pull request templates for I2I (maybe that's already the case). 96 | - Whereas it seems AC members could directly help with the vertical concerns, they're much less experts in the horizontal ones. 97 | 98 | #### Actions: 99 | 100 | - [x] @sumodas, @tobie, and @levidurfee to discuss further in the Github issue (others welcome too). 101 | 102 | ## Misc 103 | 104 | - The group needs to figure out exactly what its role is within AMP beyond answering the TSC's questions. 105 | 106 | #### Actions: 107 | 108 | - [x] @tobie to start a thread on the mailing list about what areas members would like to focus on. 109 | 110 | 111 | 112 | 113 | 114 | 115 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-03-05.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | AC Meeting #2 2019-03-05 2 | ======================== 3 | 4 | **Agenda:** https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/20 5 | 6 | **Facilitator:** @tobie 7 | 8 | ## Attendees: 9 | 10 | * @tobie 11 | * @edent 12 | * @levidurfee 13 | * @cvazac 14 | * @senthilp 15 | * @wirelessjoe 16 | * @elibud 17 | * @pdelgadorodriguez 18 | * @sumodas 19 | * @dymerrell 20 | 21 | ## Excused: 22 | 23 | * @LJWatson 24 | * @tones 25 | * @dknecht 26 | * @gui-poa 27 | 28 | # Minutes 29 | 30 | ## Use GDocs for meeting notes 31 | 32 | @all - let's use the best tool for the job. 33 | 34 | @tobie - will continue moving the notes to GitHub. 35 | 36 | 37 | ## Follow-up actions to previous meeting 38 | 39 | See [#12](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/12). 40 | 41 | ### Horizontal reviews ([#5](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/5)) 42 | 43 | Owners: @levidurfee, @sumodas 44 | 45 | ### [AC Focus](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/1) project update 46 | 47 | Owner: @tobie 48 | 49 | ## Better meeting time 50 | @tobie - Current meeting time doesn't work for everyone. Should we consider finding a time that works for the active participants? Does it make sense to rotate the time? 51 | 52 | @erden - Meeting rotation time works for w3c groups. 53 | 54 | @cvazac - we should see if we can narrow time, before we decide to rotate meeting 55 | 56 | @tobie - do we want to invite guests? 57 | 58 | @cvazac - guests should be on-demand 59 | 60 | @concensus - let's find a time that works for most 61 | 62 | @x - anniversary of google initiative, same days as our f2f, but in mt. view, ca 63 | 64 | @wirelessjoe - the event is less technically focused... 65 | 66 | @tobie - overlap is inevitable, scheduling is going to be really tough between west coast, usa and asia (when that's important) 67 | 68 | @wirelessjoe - recommendation is leave time as is 69 | 70 | @tobie - we need Asian representation, we are too N. American focused, we need more backgrounds/countries, let's start thread on mailing list 71 | 72 | ## F2F update (@cvazac) 73 | @cvazac - i'm staying at: 74 | Thistle Piccadilly 75 | Coventry Street, London, England W1D 6BZ 76 | 77 | Recommends piccadilly thistle hotel london. 78 | 79 | Will need dietary presciption. 80 | 81 | @tobie - we have to go thru Google's travel agent, it's complicated, this will be easier when we move to foundation, looking for responses for those AC members needing $ assistance for travel (non-corporate backed members) 82 | 83 | **AI - @cvazac to find out** 84 | - [ ] NDA required? 85 | - [ ] deadline for catering order? 86 | - [ ] who is paying for this delicious food? 87 | - [ ] conference room is video capable? 88 | 89 | @tobie - social activity for first night in London, let's drink warm beer in the pub, suggestion: open up social hour to non-AC members, before we go out to dinner together 90 | 91 | @all - agree! 92 | 93 | ## Discuss proposed resolution to TSC <> AC liaison 94 | 95 | See [#7](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/7). 96 | 97 | @tobie - it was suggested that we rotate a rep to attend the biweekly TSC meetings (ours are every month). suggestion: two AC members go to both meetings in a given month. 98 | 99 | **AI @sumantro to organize:** 100 | 101 | - [ ] a schedule of AC's representation at TSC meetings 102 | - [ ] a schedule of AC's representation at [Design Reviews](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+%22design+review%22) 103 | 104 | @tobie - rotating design review schedule, fairly technical 105 | 106 | @cvazac: design reviews are fairly technical, fairly well documented. 107 | 108 | ## Next meeting 109 | 110 | **AI:** 111 | 112 | - [ ] @tobie to organize first post-f2f meeting 113 | 114 | See ya in London! 115 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-05-20.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | AC Meeting #3 2019-05-20 2 | ======================== 3 | 4 | **Agenda:** https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/26 5 | 6 | **Facilitator:** [@tobie][tobie] 7 | 8 | **Scribe:** [@tones][tones] 9 | 10 | ## Attendees: 11 | 12 | - Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 13 | - Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 14 | - Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 15 | - Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 16 | - Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 17 | - Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 18 | - Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 19 | - Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 20 | 21 | ## Excused: 22 | 23 | - Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 24 | - Dane Knecht ([@dknecht][dknecht]) 25 | - Léonie Watson ([@LJWatson][LJWatson]) 26 | - Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 27 | 28 | # Minutes 29 | 30 | ## Update from recent F2F meeting in London 31 | 32 | - [Minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/meetings/2019-03-f2f.md) are published. 33 | - About half of the meeting was AMP Letter signatories — so fairly critical of AMP as a whole 34 | - Note [Terrence's blog post](https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2019/05/a-report-from-the-amp-advisory-committee-meeting/) 35 | - Tobie's main takeaway: There are a lot of aspects of AMP we don't have shared clarity on. 36 | - Charles' takeaways: 37 | 1. We want more user research, esp on AMP for email 38 | 2. Accessibility. We want to know accessible components exist out of the box. 39 | 3. Privacy / security. I think we should do an audit, esp of AMP JS and AMP analytics. "What do these leak about the user?" 40 | - Next meeting probably in NYC, date TBD 41 | 42 | 43 | ## Update on Charles's status 44 | 45 | Charles has left Akamai and no longer represent Akamai in the AMP-AC. Hopes to continue being part of the AMP-AC, pending approval from new employer. 46 | 47 | 48 | ## F2F Followup meetings 49 | 50 | - We hoped to have Accessibility working group join us today, but Léonie couldn't make it. It didn't make sense to have the meeting without her as she's clearly the team's expert on the topic. 51 | - Also: Web packaging, and AMP For Email 52 | - Suggestion: Increase our AC meeting frequency to once every two weeks in order to accommodate these meetings with other teams? The room approves. 53 | 54 | 55 | ## IAB Workshop 56 | 57 | - Details: [Exploring Synergy between Content Aggregation and the Publisher Ecosystem Workshop 2019](https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/escape-workshop/) 58 | - Tobie: Should AC be represented? In order to do so we would need to write a paper. But we do not seem to have a strict position yet, other than trying to understand what's going on. 59 | - Sumantro: Agree, we should be observers. 60 | - **AI(@tobie): reach out to IAB and ask how many people we can send without writing a paper.** 61 | 62 | 63 | ## How should the AC distribute its "opinions"? 64 | 65 | - See[ #33][issue_33] 66 | - Tobie: Bringing your attention to this topic. 67 | 68 | 69 | ## Coordination with TSC 70 | 71 | - [Github notes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/7#issuecomment-473649957) 72 | - Sumantro to publish the roster soon 73 | 74 | ## Define AC membership an election in workmode 75 | 76 | - see[ #29][issue_29] 77 | - Tobie: How do we define a member of the AC? How do people leave? How do we elect new members? 78 | - See the PR linked above for Tobie's proposal: Membership lasts a year. Membership renewed each year. Resignation any time. Elect/approve new members by consensus. Duty to ensure diversity. 79 | - Sumantro: Is it transparent enough? Maybe emphasize that anyone can apply to join anytime? 80 | - **AI(@tobie): Draft an application process** 81 | - Decided: We'll merge this PR now and make this our process. (Unless someone who is not here disagrees within a reasonable timeframe.) 82 | 83 | ## New member 84 | 85 | - Tobie: Nicole Sullivan was supposed to represent the Chrome Team in the AC, but now has resigned. Looking for someone new to represent Google's pov from a browser perspective, specifying, however, that there is nothing that requires the AC to replace a leaving member by someone working for the same company. Has a proposed new member in mind. 86 | - Next steps? General agreement: Let's discuss but not confirm until we can include some people who have been unable to join this call. 87 | 88 | - Tobie proposing as a new member: Kenji Baheux. Product manager for Chrome on web packaging and portals. Based in Japan. 89 | - Charles: I know Kenji. Conversations will go much better with someone from Google present. Also there aren't many people who understand all aspects of web packaging and AMP. Would have been great to have him present in London. He cares a lot about AMP. 90 | - Sumantro: Agree. Have worked with him, and I think he'd be an asset. 91 | - Guilherme: I support this. 92 | - _Decision: there's consensus among the present members to elect Kenji Baheux. The election will only be formalized and made public once AC members which weren't present had a chance to object to it. [UPDATE 2019-05-28: There were no formal objections. Kenji Baheux is elected as AC member.]_ 93 | 94 | - Tobie: Note that there are a few people who talked at AMPConf who I think would be good members. They represent very different views than the ones we have. 95 | - Others have ideas for members too. How should we handle this? 96 | - Sumantro: I think every advocate should have a sponsor. So we can have a spot on a future agenda where people propose and discuss and consense. 97 | - Charles: I'd like to know why they care about AMP. 98 | - AI(@tobie): add presentation of candidates by their sponsor to next meeting's agenda. 99 | - Tobie: thoughts about diversity? 100 | - Eli: Let's reach out to diverse candidates and communities. 101 | 102 | 103 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 104 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 105 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 106 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 107 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 108 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 109 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 110 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 111 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 112 | [dknecht]: https://github.com/dknecht 113 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 114 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 115 | [issue_33]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/33 116 | [issue_29]: https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/29 117 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-06-17.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # AC Meeting #5 2019-06-17 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/27](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/27) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@levidurfee][levidurfee] 8 | 9 | **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | - Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | - Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 13 | - Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 14 | - Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 15 | - Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 16 | - Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 17 | - Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 18 | 19 | **Excused:** 20 | 21 | - Dane Knecht ([@dknecht][dknecht]) 22 | - Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 23 | - Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 24 | - Léonie Watson ([@LJWatson][LJWatson]) 25 | - Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 26 | 27 | # Minutes 28 | 29 | ## Agenda Topics 30 | 31 | Tobie asking for input from others on the agenda topics. 32 | 33 | ## Membership 34 | 35 | [@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe] joined Wizeline to become the CEO of Stello (conversational UI). Would like to continue being a member of the AC for now, TBD long term. 36 | 37 | ## Roster 38 | 39 | ### Design meetings 40 | 41 | Someone responsible each quarter to keep an eye on the topics the TSC is discussing, then if we find an interesting topic, we can have an AC member sit on it. Design meetings are in various time zones, so we could have AC members in close timezones join those. 42 | 43 | ### TSC meetings 44 | 45 | Two AC members per meeting. Maybe some overlap of participants. 46 | 47 | ## Blog Post 48 | 49 | [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KfO52S4P4Auds7wZrzGLwK4pOQdiGTmRzoXFZgGJw84/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KfO52S4P4Auds7wZrzGLwK4pOQdiGTmRzoXFZgGJw84/edit) 50 | 51 | A bit formal. Make it more enticing. 52 | 53 | Approved by the end of the day Wednesday, ship it out, then hopefully have it on the blog by the end of the week. 54 | 55 | ## Accessibility 56 | 57 | We will have this meeting in two weeks. 58 | 59 | ## IAB 60 | 61 | Levi got an acceptance letter and RSVP'd. 62 | 63 | ## Short Meetings 64 | 65 | Do we want to have meetings even if there aren't many topics and the consensus is that we should still meet, even if they are short. It helps keep up the momentum and other topics may arise during the conversation. 66 | 67 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 68 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 69 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 70 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 71 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 72 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 73 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 74 | [dknecht]: https://github.com/dknecht 75 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 76 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 77 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 78 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 79 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-07-29.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | ## AC Meeting #7 2019-07-29 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/41](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/41) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe] 8 | 9 | **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | - Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 12 | - Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 13 | - Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 14 | - Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 15 | - Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 16 | - Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 17 | - Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 18 | 19 | **Excused:** 20 | 21 | - Léonie Watson ([@LJWatson][LJWatson]) 22 | - Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 23 | - Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 24 | - Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 25 | - Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 26 | - Dane Knecht ([@dknecht][dknecht]) 27 | 28 | ## Minutes 29 | 30 | - Blog post update 31 | - Tobie will complete tomorrow 32 | - TSC meetings 33 | - Next one is Wed this week and Charlie will be on 34 | - Contributor summit in NYC Oct 8-10 35 | - Reminder to register; should be in your inbox 36 | - Reach out to Tobie if you need travel support 37 | - **F2F AC meeting proposed for Tuesday Oct 8** 38 | -Tobie to check on room avail etc. 39 | - IAB workshop discussion 40 | - Levi: Primary focus on Web Pack and NOT signed exchanges 41 | - More data needed on why web pack? E.g. simple offline examples 42 | - Expiration of articles (incorrect info despite update) 43 | - UX won't be as rich because of shared caches between all users 44 | - What are the incentivises for devs to use WP? 45 | - Problem: extra cost of creating WP. If WP is essential (e.g. to get into Google carousel), it risks making the rich richer, the poor poorer. 46 | - Privacy policies? Whose applies? The cacher owner's or the author of the content? 47 | - Issues with analytics -> people not being connected therefore no analytics 48 | - Issues w/ authoritative source identification in offline mode with publishers as the aggregator 49 | - What did the group makeup look like? How long? Action Items? 50 | - 25 people from many different companies 51 | - Levi: Unfaily felt like group was against AMP 52 | - Group wanted Google on record but due to Chatham house rules that wasn't possible 53 | - Action items 54 | - Report coming this week; use cases and goals of WP 55 | - Lots of other uses for WP, let's articulate those 56 | - CDNs already have this concept on the edge (Cloudflare) 57 | - ½ the group was skeptical about the motivations of AMP and it's not clearly understood that AMP is moving to a foundation outside of Google. 58 | - Ecommerce or other vertical discussions? NO 59 | - Tobie (channeling common question): Is WP and Signed exchanges a good thing? 60 | - Charlie: this is all driven by competition around pre-rendering and performance 61 | - Tobie: Do we have real data around the value and tradeoffs? When is the tradeoff worth it? 62 | - Levi: Primary workshop takeaway: We need to look into the value more. 63 | - Levi to send the IAB report from workshop to the email distro. 64 | - Tobie: What next steps should WE as the AC take from this? 65 | - Charlie - Let's hold until we see the report and determine how to respond and what our position is.. 66 | - Group agrees on ^ action item. 67 | - Charlie: When and how do we suggest new members? 68 | - Tobie: We'll do that through the form from the blog post - Tobie to add extra input for referer. 69 | 70 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 71 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 72 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 73 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 74 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 75 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 76 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 77 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 78 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 79 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 80 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 81 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 82 | [dknecht]: https://github.com/dknecht 83 | 84 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-08-12.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting #8 2019-08-12** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/45](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/45) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: 8 | 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 13 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 14 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 15 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 16 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 17 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 18 | 19 | ## **Guests:** 20 | 21 | * William Chou ([@choumx][choumx]) 22 | 23 | ## **Excused:** 24 | 25 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 26 | * Dane Knecht ([@dknecht][dknecht]) 27 | 28 | # **Minutes** 29 | 30 | William: software eng at Google. Responsible for the email spec. Work with colleagues at Gmail + other email providers (MSFT, yahoo mail, Mail.ru). 31 | 32 | Background: idea between Malte and head of eng on Gmail side. Email: old tech, stuck in the past. Static HTML. Each provider has its own set of HTML/CSS it allows. No scripts. Very segmented. problem : data gets stale over time. 33 | 34 | Impetus behind AMP4Email: AMP safe to run on email providers compared to plain JS (which is much harder to reason on privacy/security perspective) => good opportunity to standardize this previously fragmented email spec across providers (2) user benefit by providing fresh content instead of stale content. 35 | 36 | Tobie: how did you get interest from other providers? how did you reach out to other service providers? 37 | 38 | Will: relationship between AMP and Gmail. First as a test to see if it could really work. => case studies to make it more compelling to other email providers. => confirmed in practice after announcement at AMP conf. They’re part of the AMP4Email WG. That’s been super fruitful. 39 | 40 | Joe: can you talk to the upcoming roadmap? 41 | 42 | Will: two main things: (1) supporting the need of other providers (and their partners), see issues in repositories. (2) AMP for email is a subset of the AMP spec => MVP that can be shipped using the security/privacy invariance (notably around leaking IP address) => supporting video streaming. (3) advocacy with email providers to add support for more modern HTML/CSS features. 43 | 44 | Tobie: In practice, providers are not relying on the AMP runtime to provide the trusted sandbox? 45 | 46 | Will: they are still using the AMP runtime, the implementation is still a little different. Each provider has its own sanitizing. They don't have to have the same rules, but typically they do to limit the surface area they have to worry about. 47 | 48 | Tobie: What about Fastmail refusing to implement it? 49 | 50 | Will: no engagement. Will ask if there’s partner outreach going on. Having more email providers is better. Unfortunate that FM has taken a stand in the opposite direction. 51 | 52 | Tobie: iirc this was essentially about UX wrt to content being static. Same issue wrt HTML email because of images. There was a lot of arguments against it in the past because of it. It turned out not to really be an issue in the long term. I believe it’s going to be the same for AMP. 53 | 54 | Will: Good point about the user experience 55 | 56 | HTML email already has this problem with images. There were potential security issues. In hindsight, HTML email has not been the end of the world people thought it would be. AMP HTML markup is always static, so it does have that archival feature. AMP does support dynamic content though. 57 | 58 | Sumo: we’ve looked at AMP. Looked at payment components for customer re-engagement around payments. This caused issues. More concerning: ISPs like SalesForce is saying that the extra effort requested (doubling the number of mime types) is causing a lot of extra work which makes it not really sustainable. 59 | 60 | Will: (1) amount of incremental work to provide extra-mime-type is non-trivial. But needs to be supported for fallback until AMP4Email is much more broadly supported. (2) Working to improve the ROI of implementing. 61 | 62 | Sumo: are you working to get payments in there? 63 | 64 | Will: trickier problem. We don’t have a good story on regular AMP pages yet. Will try to solve that first before taking it to email. 65 | 66 | Sumo: explains a possible approach using iframes. 67 | 68 | Will: this is—I think—what the direction we’re going in. but it’s a bit trickier than that. Especially for email, where not allowing JS to run provides security/privacy guarantees that iframes don’t support. 69 | 70 | Tobie: how is the communication around this? It feels like there's a lot of explanation about what it takes to write an AMP4Email Email, but not a lot of explanation about what that creates. The content around this is difficult for most people to consume. Can you tell us more about plans to address this, and if not can you tell us who we could talk to to get such plans in place? 71 | 72 | Will: started in a scrappy kind of mode. Tactic: trying to prove that this works incrementally. First with Gmail. Prove it’s useful. Then scale. Benefit of MIME-type is that it’s fully backwards compat. Fallback story is good. Supports incremental growth over time. Personally, this approach is more practical. This is also how AMP was built. Versus a web standards approach which takes years. Then start bringing this to standards. Similar approach with AMP4Email. Approach has much more chances of success. This had been tried in the past for HTML (I believe) for email and failed. Not everyone will agree with the AMP teams’ approach on this, but it’s the one we believe will work. 73 | 74 | Where are you on the timeline from scrappy to standardization? 75 | 76 | Will: still very much in the scrappy process. But evolving thanks to governance. Evolves in parallel with AMP. 77 | 78 | No discussion about moving it to an SDO yet. Challenge is to transcribe the components into prose. Which is why this hasn’t been done for AMP yet. Not opposed. But hard to do. 79 | 80 | WRT to smaller providers. TODO(7:52) Example of multiple providers coming together to avoid issues like whitelisting. 81 | 82 | Will: these discussions happened through the WG monthly meeting. 83 | 84 | Sumo: what does success for you look like? 85 | 86 | Will: with respect to provider adoption: ASAP 87 | 88 | Tobie: what about mime-types? 89 | 90 | 91 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 92 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 93 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 94 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 95 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 96 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 97 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 98 | [choumx]: https://github.com/choumx 99 | [dknecht]: https://github.com/dknecht -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-08-26.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting #9 2019-08-26** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/46](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/46) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@gui-poa][gui-poa] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 12 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 13 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 14 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 15 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 16 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 17 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 18 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 19 | 20 | ## **Excused:** 21 | 22 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 23 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 24 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 25 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 26 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 27 | 28 | # **Minutes** 29 | 30 | People are reading profile's candidates to join the AC. 31 | 32 | Dave Knecht decided to resign from the AC. He did so by emailing the facilitator as per the process. His resignation opens up a new seat on the AC. We’ll announce his resignation publicly at the same time as the results of the election. 33 | 34 | What is the criteria to make the choices? Goal is to increase diversity as per our workmode (see [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/WORKING_MODE.md#election](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/WORKING_MODE.md#election)): 35 | 36 | >_It is the AC's duty to ensure the AC is as representative and diverse as possible. When AC membership places are available, AC members commit to proactively reaching out to groups who are not currently represented._ 37 | 38 | Note that the election process is through consensus. We don't need to vote, just in case of disagreement. 39 | 40 | We have 5 seats for the AC, but there isn't a fixed number for the new members we take onboard. 41 | 42 | The debate about the nomination isn’t minuted to preserve the privacy of the candidates. 43 | 44 | The final decision will be async over email. Tentative by Thursday, so we have Friday and Monday to get in touch with the nominated candidates and to confirm that they are willing to join. 45 | 46 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 47 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 48 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 49 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 50 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 51 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 52 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 53 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 54 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 55 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 56 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 57 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 58 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-09-09.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting #10 2019-09-09** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/51](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/51) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@gui-poa][gui-poa] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 12 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 13 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 14 | * Léonie Watson ([@LJWatson][LJWatson]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 17 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 18 | 19 | ## **Excused:** 20 | 21 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 22 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 23 | 24 | 25 | # **Minutes** 26 | 27 | ## Elections 28 | 29 | * The AC finalizes the elections. 30 | * Election members will be announced through a blog post tomorrow, and via emails. 31 | * An invitation to join AC meetings will be extended to those that weren’t selected along with a 1:1 call if they desire. 32 | 33 | 34 | ## TSC Meeting Liaison 35 | 36 | * Levi to report on past meetings + ESCAPE workshop during our next call 37 | 38 | 39 | ## AMP Governance 40 | 41 | * AC member-only (for now) slidedeck presented by [@tobie][tobie]. 42 | 43 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 44 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 45 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 46 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 47 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 48 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 49 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 50 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 51 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 52 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-09-23.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting #11 2019-09-23** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/53](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/53) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Charles Vazac - [@cvazac][cvazac] 12 | * Elisa Budelli - [@elibud][elibud] 13 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza - [@gui-poa][gui-poa] 14 | * Jervay Singh - [@jervay][jervay] 15 | * Joe Alicata - [@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe] 16 | * Levi Durfee - [@levidurfee][levidurfee] 17 | * Maggie Wettergreen - [@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen] 18 | * Melanie Sumner - [@melsumner][melsumner] 19 | * Melissa DePuydt - [@msteffan][msteffan] 20 | * Pablo Delgado - [@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez] 21 | * Senthil Padmanabhan - [@senthilp][senthilp] 22 | * Sumantro Das - [@sumodas][sumodas] 23 | * Ted Shuter - [@TedShuter][TedShuter] 24 | * Tobie Langel - [@tobie][tobie] 25 | 26 | ## **Excused:** 27 | 28 | * David Merrell - [@dymerrell][dymerrell] 29 | * Graham Loh - [@grahamle][grahamle] 30 | * Ali Ghassemi - [@aghassemi][aghassemi] 31 | * Terence Eden - [@edent][edent] 32 | * Tim Jones - [@tones][tones] 33 | * Kenji Baheux - [@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux] 34 | * Léonie Watson - [@LJWatson][LJWatson] 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | 1. Completed rounds of introductions with new and existing members 39 | 2. Current meeting time (1-2p ET) for folks agreed to be OK for most people barring Kenji (based in Japan). 40 | 3. AMP AC Face2Face Agenda: 41 | 1. TSC <> AC : Levi (present in prior meeting): everyone excited to meet 42 | 2. July 2019 Internet Architecture Board (IAB) workshop web packaging recap 43 | 1. Is there data to suggest a use case for web packaging? 44 | 2. Will moving to a foundation help solve for challenges faced by AMP? 45 | 3. Instant Navigation 46 | 3. Senthil - if one preloads top 5 pages 47 | 4. Charles: privacy is the key point of contention 48 | 5. Tobie: AMP runtime - allows to prefetch in a privacy-friendly way 49 | 4. Tobie: Any other items? 50 | 4. Sumo: should this group have a focus on the IAB workshop? 51 | 5. Charles: the group can consider having a response 52 | 6. Melissa: could have a point of view and bring up at the next IAB summit in November - WP is a solution for a problem that may not have a fully explored use cases. 53 | 5. AMP Conf 54 | 7. ~7 people attending AMP Conference F2F 55 | 8. Melanie and Leonie won’t be present, group will hold off accessibility unless someone else articulates position 56 | 9. Topics to consider for AMP AC 57 | 6. Sumo: AMP users cases for e-commerce 58 | 7. Tobie: What do folks want at AMP and want to accomplish here? We can do this as a roundtable and add this to the F2F meeting agenda 59 | 8. Charles and Eli: A-sync brainstorm will work well 60 | 1. Eli: Can details be sent via email? 61 | 9. Potential Dinner on 10/8 (looking for company sponsors if possible) - Eli might be busy but others keen. 62 | 63 | 64 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 65 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 66 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 67 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 68 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 69 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 70 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 71 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 72 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 73 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 74 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 75 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 76 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 77 | [jervay]: https://github.com/jervay 78 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 79 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 80 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 81 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 82 | [grahamle]: https://github.com/grahamle 83 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 84 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 85 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-10-21.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting #12 2019-10-21** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/54](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/54) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@gui-poa][gui-poa] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 12 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 13 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 14 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 15 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 16 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 17 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 18 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 19 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 20 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 21 | 22 | ## **Excused:** 23 | 24 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 25 | * Léonie Watson ([@LJWatson][LJWatson]) 26 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 27 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 28 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 29 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 30 | 31 | # **Minutes** 32 | 33 | Should we keep recording the meetings? 34 | 35 | We are going to continue recording and wait more opinions about to revisit it. 36 | 37 | We don't have a solution to Kenji join the meetings due the timezone. We are going to wait the end of the year and rethink. 38 | 39 | Pablo brings a good point: As AC is not anymore part of Google umbrella, how can we debate Google decisions about AMP, like the carrousel? 40 | 41 | We agree that AC doesn't have "control" about other organizations on how they use and build their own AMP solutions. 42 | 43 | Project Board: 44 | 45 | [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/1](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/1) 46 | 47 | Group discuss new tasks, like Transpiler HTML <-> AMPHtml. 48 | 49 | Signed exchanged (web packaging) was again a topic. What benefits AMP pre-render brings? Performance? Privacy? 50 | 51 | A few notes was added to 'How can users opt-out of AMP' 52 | 53 | Tobie suggests that each task should have a champion assigned. 54 | 55 | We are going to have all the tasks into a spreadsheet, then we can prioritize them. 56 | 57 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 58 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 59 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 60 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 61 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 62 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 63 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 64 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 65 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 66 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 67 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 68 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 69 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 70 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 71 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 72 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-11-04.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting #14 2019-11-04** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/58](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/58) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: 8 | 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 13 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 14 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 15 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 16 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 17 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 18 | 19 | 20 | ## **Excused:** 21 | 22 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 23 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 24 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 25 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 26 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 27 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 28 | 29 | # **Minutes** 30 | 31 | * Facilitator for meeting in two week 11.18 32 | * Canceled ✅ 33 | * Tracking issues (org-level projects) 34 | * Project board for facilitating conversations, collaboration, and tracking communications exposing AC working group 35 | * AI : Tobie to setup project board 36 | * TSC liaison organizer needed - 2 members of the AC aligned to each TSC meeting 37 | * AI; Sumo to find a replacement for himself in planning the schedule 38 | * AI: @tobie to ask TSC to be organized in planning regular scheduled meetings 39 | * AI: AC to provide clear commitment of people 40 | * Foundation Onboarding 41 | * [https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/350](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/350) 42 | * [https://github.com/orgs/ampproject/projects/4](https://github.com/orgs/ampproject/projects/4) 43 | * [ampproject/meta-tsc#25](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-tsc/issues/25) 44 | * [https://github.com/ampproject/meta/issues/45](https://github.com/ampproject/meta/issues/45) 45 | * AC/AI: Raise opinions w/ Tobie ASAP on DCO v’ CLA 46 | * AI: @Tobie to open a GH issue on the topic to determine expertise and/or interest of full AC 47 | * 48 | * [#55](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/55) - Making sure AMP supports CCPA 49 | * AI: wrt working in the open, file an issue on AC repo, comment to come to a consensus, then file an issue with TSC to crosslink and create the formal request 50 | * AI: Open issue to add this process to our working mode doc 51 | * EOY elections 52 | * AI: @Tobie emails all current members to determine if they would like to continue in membership next year. Complete by EOY. Results will determine if we need an election. (as a result of not having a definition of members of good standing we’ll extend to all current members) 53 | * If no response to 2 emails members will be determined to be declining extending membership 54 | * 1st email will be via mailing list 55 | * 2nd will be direct to non-responders 56 | * Elections will be determined if they are needed at the first meeting of 2020 57 | * [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/1](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/1) (AC focus) 58 | * AI: Tobie to give access to new group members 59 | * AI: Melanie to update voting method in the spreadsheet and email mailing list 60 | * Voting will take place via the spreadsheet 61 | 62 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 63 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 64 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 65 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 66 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 67 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 68 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 69 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 70 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 71 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 72 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 73 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-12-02.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting 2019-12-02** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/59](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/59) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@elibud][elibud] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 12 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 13 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][elibud]) 14 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 17 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 18 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 19 | 20 | ## **Excused:** 21 | 22 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 23 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 24 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 25 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 26 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 27 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 28 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 29 | 30 | # **Minutes** 31 | 32 | * We started the call with a quick intro from Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]). 33 | * Quick update on who’s continuing to serve on the AMP AC in 2020, and a nudge to start thinking about whether we want to open more seats for election. 34 | * AMP AC focus for 2020 as a result of the previously conducted survey: 35 | * What can we extract from AMP and get the whole Web platform to benefit from by implementing in browsers? 36 | * Display the publisher's URL in the address bar, not Google's. 37 | * Making AMP really accessible. 38 | * Runner up but with consensus on its importance: Privacy implications of the current AMP implementation. 39 | * There’s agreement that the group is passionate about the top three focuses for 2020, and there’s already been some progress in some of them. 40 | * Our role is to bring attention to some of the issues and sometimes drive conversations, and flag problems to the AMP TSC. 41 | * Re accessibility: process + audit. Solution is to audit, improve, etc. 42 | * How do we measure success as a group? 43 | * In terms of what’s been delivered? 44 | * In terms of how many projects have we advised on and how successful they were? 45 | * Follow up: We need to have a clearer process to see what we do, and track it, and have visibility on progress. 46 | * Do we want to drive the agenda or do we want to sit in a more advisory role? 47 | * Driving the agenda gives us more impact, but it’s also much work. We don’t have actual decision making power so we need to operate by influence. 48 | * Should our focus be helping on the prioritization of issues? 49 | * The working group plans quarterly. 50 | * Make sure the roadmap is public while it’s still being decided. 51 | * Give our input on priorities. 52 | * Ideally help shape the roadmap. 53 | * Roaster for the TSC: Sumo will do it. It involves: 54 | * Make sure that TSC meetings are staffed between at least one AC member. 55 | * Help build the relationship between the TSC and the AC. 56 | * Bring relevant topics back to the AC. 57 | 58 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 59 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 60 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 61 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 62 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 63 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 64 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 65 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 66 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 67 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 68 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 69 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 70 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 71 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 72 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 73 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2019-12-16.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **AC Meeting 2019-12-16** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/65](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/65) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: 8 | 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 13 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 14 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 15 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 16 | * Léonie Watson ([@LJWatson][LJWatson]) 17 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 18 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 19 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 20 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 21 | * Ted Shuter ([@TedShuter][TedShuter]) 22 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 23 | 24 | Guests: 25 | 26 | * Naina Raisinghani ([@nainar][nainar]) 27 | * Caroline Liu ([@caroqliu][caroqliu]) 28 | 29 | ## **Excused:** 30 | 31 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 32 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 33 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 34 | 35 | # **Minutes** 36 | 37 | ## Intro 38 | 39 | Caroline: 40 | 41 | As a framework, AMP is in a great position to drive accessibility and isn’t taking enough advantage of it. 42 | 43 | Problems so far: 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 1. Don’t know how we’re doing -> make inventory 48 | 2. A more unified and consistent strategy across components 49 | 3. No accessibility experts actually contributing to the framework right now. 50 | 51 | Are these the right problems? 52 | 53 | How opinionated can we be? 54 | 55 | How opinionated are other Web frameworks? 56 | 57 | Aggressively opinionated could mean blocking validation for example. 58 | 59 | Léonie: def should be included in the validator as far as can reasonably be done. (Not everything can be properly validated). 60 | 61 | Maggie: what if Google doesn’t enforce the validation on their product? 62 | 63 | Tobie: can’t expect to control product decisions, but seemed likely this would be adopted given it is driven by Google. 64 | 65 | Naina: we’re all follow standards in the AMP4Email WG. 66 | 67 | 68 | ## 1. Accessibility Inventory: 69 | 70 | Various different proposals 71 | 72 | * Audits 73 | * Testing pages in the wild 74 | * Léonie suggests getting the components tested in isolation as a first step 75 | * +1 from Maggie 76 | * In parallel: automated accessibility testing 77 | * Great step forward 78 | * Adding documentation as to how to test this 79 | * Update to process I2I / I2S from Naina 80 | * About to ship 81 | * Describes manual testing 82 | * Audit for larger components either by the Google Accessibility Team or an external vendor 83 | 84 | Documentation: 85 | 86 | * Both for contributors and implementers 87 | * WG is working with tech writers right now 88 | * Current work: 89 | * working with Krystal for a blog post 90 | * Section on accessibility story of component, what’s baked in, what needs to be implemented to reach different Accessibility compliance levels. 91 | 92 | 93 | ## 2. A more unified and consistent strategy across components 94 | 95 | * Documentation (see above) 96 | * Validation 97 | * Eli: only way to have consistency 98 | * Lightens the role of the accessibility team 99 | * Maggie: +1 100 | * Melanie: “shiftleft” move accessibility on to the designer + dev workflow => creates more accessibility conversations. Seeing benefits there. 101 | * Léonie huge +1 102 | * Secondary benefit is that this sends a strong message 103 | * Ali: +1 but careful about backwards compat 104 | * Melanie: good case for version bumping 105 | * Eli: mindset shift requested 106 | * Léonie: takes well known entities actually taking a lead 107 | * Caroline: it’s true that this would break existing pages 108 | * 109 | * Accessibility menu on website that user can interact with (to style the website). Should AMP provide this as a component? 110 | * Maggie fine if user driven 111 | * Eli: Automation/linting during PR creation would be great. 112 | * Senthil: be careful not to have users assume the framework does everything (especially around validation) 113 | 114 | 115 | ## 3. No accessibility experts actually contributing to the framework right now 116 | 117 | Various approaches 118 | 119 | * Document review process and new feature launch 120 | * Train members of the UI WG on accessibility 121 | * Do quarterly accessibility sprints 122 | * Hypothetical approach: hire an accessibility engineer 123 | * Eli: we’d benefit from a dedicated team member but don’t have one 124 | * Trying to get an audit process going on regularly 125 | * Melanie: Accessibility Champions program at LinkedIn, helps spread the workload 126 | * Tobie: I like the sprints idea 127 | * Eli: let’s have accessibility month -> group effort 128 | * Senthil: at EBay we have Mind Patterns ([https://ebay.github.io/mindpatterns/](https://ebay.github.io/mindpatterns/)) 129 | * Accessibility should be everyone’s problem not only dedicated engineers 130 | 131 | 132 | ## Closing comments 133 | 134 | Ali: What is the main problem (spectrum: is the problem non-accessible components or non-accessible pages). 135 | 136 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 137 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 138 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 139 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 140 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 141 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 142 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 143 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 144 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 145 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 146 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 147 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 148 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 149 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 150 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 151 | [caroqliu]: https://github.com/caroqliu 152 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-01-13.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **January 13, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/69](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/69) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen] 8 | 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 13 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 14 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 17 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 18 | * Ted Shuter ([@TedShuter][TedShuter]) 19 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 20 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 21 | 22 | 23 | ## **Excused:** 24 | 25 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 26 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 27 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 28 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 29 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 30 | 31 | 32 | ## **Absent:** 33 | 34 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 35 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 36 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 37 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 38 | 39 | # **Minutes** 40 | 41 | * Elect scribe 42 | * Slight changes to minute taking process (single doc) 43 | * Introduce [@jorydotcom](https://github.com/jorydotcom) (new role in AC) 44 | * More clear and visible notes/minutes for public consumption 45 | * Greater integration with OpenJS Foundation 46 | * Results of EOY new term confirmation 47 | * Loss of members due to time constraints (Jervay Singh, Graham Loh, Léonie Watson) 48 | * Affiliation changes 49 | * Joe joining Google Assistant team (congrats) 50 | * Discussion on concerns about % of AC who are now Googlers, how this affects perspective diversity & optics 51 | * Agree Joe can compartmentalize his roles, but it’s a question of optics. Further discussion/async decision on his continued membership pending. 52 | * Do we run an election? (discussion) 53 | * Hold off for now unless we feel we are lacking perspective due to losses or lack of regional representation, in Asia for example 54 | * How do we move forward with [2020 focus](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%222020+focus%22)? (discussion) 55 | * Suggestion for process: 56 | * to get the AC input to be better fitted into the TSC priorities and ultimately drive regular input into the dev cycle process; 57 | * measure success 58 | * gather feedback from community 59 | * Adding members interested in specific topics for async discussion pertaining to that focus 60 | 61 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 62 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 63 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 64 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 65 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 66 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 67 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 68 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 69 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 70 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 71 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 72 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 73 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 74 | [jervay]: https://github.com/jervay 75 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 76 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 77 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 78 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 79 | [grahamle]: https://github.com/grahamle 80 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 81 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-01-27.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **January 27, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/72](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/72) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 12 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 13 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 14 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | 17 | ## **Excused:** 18 | 19 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 20 | * Ted Shuter ([@TedShuter][TedShuter]) 21 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 22 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 23 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 24 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 25 | 26 | ## **Absent:** 27 | 28 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 29 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 30 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 31 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 32 | * Melissa DePuydt [@msteffan][msteffan]) 33 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 34 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 35 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 36 | 37 | # **Minutes** 38 | 39 | **1. Clarifying that meetings are open** 40 | 41 | * Find ways to promote more openness in the meetings 42 | * If necessary keep a few private minutes at the end of the call. 43 | * Only record if asked in advance 44 | 45 | **2. Focus 2020 areas:** 46 | 47 | * We weren’t sure if we had quorum to move forward with this. 48 | * A new concern was brought up that we decided to tackle instead (although it has ties with #64). 49 | 50 | **3. UX/Consistency/Perf Index conundrum** 51 | 52 | * Discussion Summary 53 | * Tradeoff triangle reported by some constituencies between perf index (search placement), consistency, and UX. 54 | * Examples include: 55 | * a page with comments becoming too slow in AMP, so the choice becomes either to remove those comments altogether (and lose consistency, which impact their search rating) or use an iframe instead, which is less user friendly. 56 | * You get a better perf index embedding youtube in an iframe rather than using the AMP youtube component. 57 | * This is perceived as conflicting incentives (do we strive for better UX or better search placement when these two are not aligned; they should be.) 58 | * Perception is Google Search is tightening its requirements as AMP is getting more complex (heavier?). 59 | * Lack of visibility into perf index for AMP (and thus placement in Search). 60 | * Action items 61 | * Todo: File an issue with the TSC saying there are reports from AC members of issues with size of the AMP runtime. Is this a known issue? Where is it tracked? 62 | * Todo: File an issue about the triangle conundrum and bring it up with the TSC 63 | 64 | ![triangle_of_competing_concerns](images/triangle.png "image_tooltip") 65 | 66 | * What can we do to address this 67 | * How can we work with the TSC to address this 68 | 69 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 70 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 71 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 72 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 73 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 74 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 75 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 76 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 77 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 78 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 79 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 80 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 81 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 82 | [jervay]: https://github.com/jervay 83 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 84 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 85 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 86 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 87 | [grahamle]: https://github.com/grahamle 88 | [LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 89 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 90 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-02-10.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **February 10, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/78](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/78) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 6 | 7 | Scribe: 8 | 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 13 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 14 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 15 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 16 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 17 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 18 | * Ted Shuter ([@TedShuter][TedShuter]) 19 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 20 | 21 | ## **Excused:** 22 | 23 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 24 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 25 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 26 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 27 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 28 | * Melissa DePuydt [@msteffan][msteffan]) 29 | 30 | ## **Absent:** 31 | 32 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 33 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 34 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 35 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 36 | 37 | # **Minutes** 38 | 39 | * Pablo briefly updated everyone on: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/80](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/80) 40 | * 2020 Focus strategy brainstorm, focused on the [Constituency Focus](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/64): 41 | * See Documentation in [Jamboard](https://jamboard.google.com/d/1b4scLHZtbWBbYm7Kc-xDYJaYX9iumRDWUMZkjYb7nZ4/viewer) 42 | 43 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 44 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 45 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 46 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 47 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 48 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 49 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 50 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 51 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 52 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 53 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 54 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 55 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 56 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 57 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 58 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 59 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 60 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 61 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-02-24.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **February 24, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/82](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/82) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 6 | 7 | Scribe: 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 12 | * Ted Shuter ([@TedShuter][TedShuter]) 13 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 14 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 17 | 18 | ## **Excused:** 19 | 20 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 21 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 22 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 23 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 24 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 25 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 26 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 27 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 28 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 29 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 30 | 31 | ## **Absent:** 32 | 33 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 34 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | **Follow-ups** 39 | 40 | * [#84](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/84) - AMP Runtime 41 | * [#64](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/64) - constituency brainstorm follow-up 42 | * [Draft Proposal Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1EVibClHeeXenrLdwjdpaa9f-LHN67r9KNwRb-ePm0wU/edit?usp=drive_web&ouid=104700215516924738256) 43 | 44 | [2020 Focus](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%222020+focus%22) strategy brainstorm 45 | 46 | * Timeboxed discussion of up to two 2020 Focus topics, ~20 minutes per topic 47 | * [Privacy Focus](https://jamboard.google.com/d/1B9MxnHysK8M_9R4xB-N0FxYM-TRvP4kRXt5SfyBYzlA/viewer) (Jamboard) 48 | * Any feedback or input from CCPA? 49 | * Yes, this is something we should dive into as a next priority 50 | * What type of privacy issues are we worried about tackling? 51 | * Opting out stuff for CA regulations - is there a to-do list? 52 | * Ted: this is important, but we may not have the expertise 53 | * Should we bring in someone? 54 | * Tobie was working on some of these issues from the NYT; someone from the TSC came in - we should follow up on this 55 | * Pablo: Consent in AMP, who manages? That was one of the bigger problems there - data privacy with different states 56 | * Sumo: we should track the progress of what changes have been made - we should track offline 57 | * Joe: Unclear where the TSC landed with this, where the community landed 58 | * Melanie: it looks li 59 | * Jory: Where do we want to fit? 60 | * Melanie: How do we want to distribute the opinions of the AC? From a PRelations perspective, “X is what we think and advise” - this seems like an open issue for us to discuss - how do we share that knowledge? 61 | * Joe: We never formalized that, to my recall. 62 | * Melanie: We need to collaborate with the TSC - how would you like to receive feedback from AC 63 | * Sumo: What about the feedback loop (closing the loop on issues that have gone to the TSC (issue RE CCPA) 64 | * Sumo: can we get useful metrics to plug into the feedback cycle more? That should probably dictate what our priorities are 65 | * Melanie: we should see about getting report numbers more frequently. I also see this is tied into the constituency issue 66 | * Grok some of our administrative issues next week. Metrics, reporting, distribute/track the things we have decided. I think that would fit in the discussion window. 67 | 68 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 69 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 70 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 71 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 72 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 73 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 74 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 75 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 76 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 77 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 78 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 79 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 80 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 81 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 82 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 83 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 84 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 85 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 86 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 87 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-03-23.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **March 23, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/89](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/89) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 14 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | 17 | 18 | ## **Excused:** 19 | 20 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 21 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 22 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 23 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 24 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 25 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 26 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 27 | 28 | ## **Absent:** 29 | 30 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 31 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 32 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 33 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 34 | * Ted Shuter ([@TedShuter][TedShuter]) 35 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 36 | 37 | # **Minutes** 38 | 39 | * Design review roster 40 | * If we found it valuable to meet the Outreach WG during our last call, there might be value in joining design reviews. Those combine quarterly updates by working groups with reviews of new features. 41 | * Reviews happen every other week on a rolling basis for time zones. TSC joins them every 6 weeks. ([Design reviews schedule](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/labels/Type%3A%20Design%20Review).) 42 | * Our role would be as observers, but representing the AC when there’s known AC consensus. We could bring back topics and invite WG for follow-ups if necessary. 43 | * Ideally we’d just go to design reviews that have topics we’re interested in, but the agendas are published sufficiently in advance for that. Hard to assess value without actually giving it a try. 44 | * Consensus that we should go ahead and join a few meetings and reassess. 45 | * AI is for Jory and Tobie to plan the roster and share with all of you. 46 | * TSC meeting roster 47 | * We will do the same AI as above for the TSC roster. 48 | * Work on focus areas 49 | * We decide to focus on URLs and move our work to the [Jamboard](https://jamboard.google.com/d/1gDMTMn_ywDkCZzHTMSdrhtrI0UTb_OrnSJ984ZdCNzI/viewer?ts=5e29bc85&f=0). 50 | * AI: Share the result of the board with Kenji to get his feedback and answers. 51 | * AI: Roster planning 52 | 53 | 54 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 55 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 56 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 57 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 58 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 59 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 60 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 61 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 62 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 63 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 64 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 65 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 66 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 67 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 68 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 69 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 70 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 71 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 72 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 73 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-04-06.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **April 6, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/92](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/92) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 14 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 15 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 16 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 17 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 18 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 19 | 20 | ## **Excused:** 21 | 22 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 23 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 24 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 25 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 26 | * Ted Shuter ([@TedShuter][TedShuter]) 27 | 28 | ## **Absent:** 29 | 30 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 31 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 32 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 33 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 34 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | * Approve last call's [minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/91). 39 | * Please +1, will merge today pending no outstanding concerns 40 | * [Check roster for TSC meeting & Check roster for Design reviews](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14zK4a1soZXQXlgyaS7cIWizzzaF9z93lWEPXfc11Rt0/edit#gid=0). 41 | * AI: follow up with Rudy to confirm TSC meeting attendees, Eli & Sumo 42 | * Ted Shuter is stepping down. Has suggested a candidate to take over his seat. AC to discuss. 43 | * Reminder: seats are not tied to organizations, and there are no set number of seats. Last elections were last summer 2019. 44 | * Agree that it’s important to have perspectives from key groups (i.e. CDNs) 45 | * AI: Consider the nominee for an interim term and have an election in early 2021 as planned. 46 | * AI: Sumo to update working mode to reflect the process adjustment. 47 | * AI: Discuss nominee next week 48 | * Accessibility 2020 Focus ([#62](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/62)) ([Jamboard](https://jamboard.google.com/d/1rb9r2_GGawD9TGZMoXAr6Kfd0m7bGOut_CBbl3ug_Nw/viewer)) 49 | * See documentation in Jamboard 50 | * AI: Follow up with UX & Accessibility team & get a status on work from last year 51 | * AI: organize meeting with UX & Accessibility team 52 | * AI: Clean up & organize board 53 | 54 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 55 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 56 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 57 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 58 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 59 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 60 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 61 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 62 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 63 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 64 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 65 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 66 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 67 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 68 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 69 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 70 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 71 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 72 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 73 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-04-20.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **April 20, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/94](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/94) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 14 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 15 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 16 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 17 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 18 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 19 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 20 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 21 | 22 | ## **Excused:** 23 | 24 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 25 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 26 | 27 | ## **Absent:** 28 | 29 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 30 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 31 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 32 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 33 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 34 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | * Approve last call's minutes. 39 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 40 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 41 | * Follow-up discussion with Kenji and others on URL Focus / Signed Exchanges 42 | * Follow-up on nomination from [@TedShuter](https://github.com/TedShuter) 43 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 44 | * Introducing Brian Howard - interim member until we have elections at the end of the year. 45 | * Intro Kenji 46 | * Idea: Rolling call times to accommodate the variable timezones moving forward 47 | * Minutes were merged 48 | * Design & TSC meeting Roster - Sumo & Eli confirmed for TSC; Sumo volunteered to attend the Design meeting on 22 April. 49 | * Signed exchanges & URLs discussion continued 50 | * URL integrity 51 | * 3rd party cookie restrictions make that even more important 52 | * Cache problems 53 | * Personalization impossible during pre-rendering 54 | * Needs to be scripted 55 | * Some info could be provided such as geoloc 56 | * E-commerce want users to have a consistent experience (requires dynamic personalization). 57 | * More consistent understanding of how personalization works for different use cases desired. What can be done to improve? 58 | * Ability to set cookies super important (e.g. for shopping carts). 59 | * Short (90 day) SXG certification - many publishers have begun to appreciate the benefits of this. Encourages automation. Who handles automation? What kind of certs are needed? Documentation on this would be useful, as well as info on CAs that support the necessary APIs 60 | * AC could support outreach on this in the future 61 | * AI: follow-up call with Melissa, Brian, others RE publishing tools & outreach (ARC, etc.) 62 | * Additionally Brian and Kenji will follow up with each other asynchronously 63 | * Payment Gateways 64 | * resurgence of interest in payment request API. 65 | 66 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 67 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 68 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 69 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 70 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 71 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 72 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 73 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 74 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 75 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 76 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 77 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 78 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 79 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 80 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 81 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 82 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 83 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 84 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 85 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-05-04.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **May 4, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/99](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/99) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 14 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 17 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 18 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 19 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 20 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 21 | 22 | ## **Excused:** 23 | 24 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 25 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 26 | 27 | ## **Absent:** 28 | 29 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 30 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 31 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 32 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 33 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 34 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | * Approve minutes from last meeting 39 | * TSC & Design Roster sign-ups 40 | * Tobie & Melanie for next TSC meeting May 6 41 | * Report from the Design Review session last week 42 | * Melanie & Jory 43 | * Following up with Naina at next meeting 44 | * Report from the last TSC meeting, ~ 2 weeks ago 45 | * Eli & Sumo 46 | * Working to improve relationship between AC & TSC 47 | * Group seemed comfortable extending standing invitation to TSC members to attend AC meetings 48 | * Year Plan [#101](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/101) 49 | * Organization Document 50 | * [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDFuObC1X06Wh13TfMPA01Yi0ofntc7lTk4HjZplm4A/edit#](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDFuObC1X06Wh13TfMPA01Yi0ofntc7lTk4HjZplm4A/edit#) 51 | * Alternating Meeting times 52 | 53 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 54 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 55 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 56 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 57 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 58 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 59 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 60 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 61 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 62 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 63 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 64 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 65 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 66 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 67 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 68 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 69 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 70 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 71 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 72 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-05-18.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **May 18, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/102](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/102) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Naina Raisinghani ([@nainar][nainar]) 12 | * Jory Burson ([@jorydotcom][jorydotcom]) 13 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 14 | * David Strauss ([@DavidStrauss][DavidStrauss]) 15 | * Chris Papazian ([@cpapazian][cpapazian]) 16 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 17 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 18 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 19 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 20 | * Dima Voytenko ([@dvoytenko][dvoytenko]) 21 | * Rudy Galfi ([@rudygalfi][rudygalfi]) 22 | 23 | ## **Excused:** 24 | 25 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 26 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 27 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 28 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 29 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 30 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 31 | 32 | ## **Absent:** 33 | 34 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 35 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 36 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 37 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 38 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 39 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 40 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 41 | 42 | # **Minutes** 43 | 44 | * Approved last call's minutes: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/103](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/103) 45 | * Check rosters for TSC & Design Review meetings 46 | * Update from past TSC & Design Review 47 | * Accessibility discussion with guest @nainar 48 | * Naina: 49 | * Three buckets / work areas: 50 | * Process 51 | * Components 52 | * Documentation 53 | * External audit 54 | * Caroline & Naina looking into it 55 | * Melanie offers help. 56 | * Further discussion of process problems for new or infrequent contributors vs. those who contribute often. 'Warnings' vs. 'Errors'. Discussion of roadmap for remainder of the year with support from external vendor. 57 | * AIs 58 | * Support Melanie to sync with Naina 59 | * Next Meeting: different time to accommodate Kenji in JST 60 | * Topic: performance, issues #32, #80, #87, #84 61 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 62 | * Discussion about AMP involvement @ Collab Summit 63 | * Ideas: AMP Feedback Session - Maggie & Tobie 64 | * Ideas: Accessibility in AMP - Melanie & Tobie 65 | 66 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 67 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 68 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 69 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 70 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 71 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 72 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 73 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 74 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 75 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 76 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 77 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 78 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 79 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 80 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 81 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 82 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 83 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 84 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 85 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 86 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 87 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 88 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 89 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 90 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 91 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-06-01.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **June 1, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/107](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/107) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Rudy Galfi ([@rudygalfi][rudygalfi]) 13 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 14 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 17 | * David Strauss ([@DavidStrauss][DavidStrauss]) 18 | * Malte Ubl ([@cramforce][cramforce]) 19 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 20 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 21 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 22 | * Chris Papazian ([@cpapazian][cpapazian]) 23 | * Dima Voytenko ([@dvoytenko][dvoytenko]) 24 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 25 | 26 | 27 | ## **Excused:** 28 | 29 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 30 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 31 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 32 | 33 | ## **Absent:** 34 | 35 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 36 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 37 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 38 | * Levi Durfee ([@levidurfee][levidurfee]) 39 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 40 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 41 | 42 | # **Minutes** 43 | 44 | * Approve last call's minutes - 45 | * [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/108](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/108) 46 | * Acknowledge resignation of [@levidurfee](https://github.com/levidurfee) 47 | * Consider whether we want to run elections early - discuss further at a later date 48 | * Report from recent TSC & Design Review meetings - 49 | * Nothing to report 50 | * Check rosters for upcoming TSC & Design Review meetings 51 | * Sign-ups taken 52 | * Discussion of recent announcement about the page experience metrics and impact on AMP 53 | * See [https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2020/05/evaluating-page-experience.html](https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2020/05/evaluating-page-experience.html) 54 | * Top stories will no longer require AMP 55 | * Vitals metrics changing - Most of AMP meets these metrics requirements 56 | * Timing - tools are available now; ranking & top stories updates will wait until 2021. Will provide a 6 months heads up before this change occurs. 57 | * Google plans to continue investing in AMP. 58 | * AMP Pre-rendering strategy unchanged. 59 | * Eligibility to top-story carousel will open-up to non-AMP content. 60 | * AMP results are pre-rendered 61 | * Will non-AMP content be pre-rendered? 62 | * If it has SGX 63 | * SXG not a prerequisite for carousel eligibility 64 | * When you say, 'we announced' - does that mean google? 65 | * Yes 66 | * Signed exchanges have any direct or indirect bearing on results relevance? 67 | * Not explicit criteria. 68 | * Is SXG accounted for in perf measurements? 69 | * Need to look at the standards 70 | * All measured from navigation timestamp 71 | * Standardized. When you click the link. 72 | * This is actually measuring real-user performance. So prefetching will help. 73 | * [https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-user-experience-report](https://developers.google.com/web/tools/chrome-user-experience-report) 74 | * How fine-grained are Google-search perf indexing? 75 | * Depends on how much traffic the site has. As fine-grained as possible. 76 | * Will only rely on AMP content for mobile if it present. 77 | * Google will also prioritize SXG when available. 78 | * Re: 'top stories' changes move to any page, if comparable pages are on the site (amp and non amp), will the page lighter i.e. AMP be given preference over non amp page?
 79 | * SXG docs pre-fetching is proxied through Google 80 | * AMP pages are not pre-rendered, only pre-fetched with SXG - shouldn’t affect ‘content freshness’ 81 | * AIs: 82 | * AC to gather further questions & create doc that would be suitable for constituencies to answer FAQs - work with Naina & Rudy on this as well 83 | * Performance Focus Area Discussion: 84 | * [#32](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/32) - Provide Access to User Research 85 | * Did not discuss 86 | * [#80](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/80) - Trade-off Triangle 87 | * Pablo presents issue to TSC attendees 88 | * This is made even more of an issue with the ability of non-Web content to be in the carousel, now. 89 | * Now that AMP has all of these components, “you can’t say no anymore.” 90 | * Rudy: 91 | * Core vitals are really centered on users. 92 | * We need to really look at AMP vs. non-AMP perf in this context. 93 | * 2 year journey to open-up top carousel in order to allow publishers who know how to get there perf-wise not to have to use AMP for this. 94 | * Drives a sharper focus on what AMP has to go do. 95 | * [#84](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/84) - AMP Runtime 96 | * Did not directly discuss 97 | * [#87](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/87) - AMP Perf Numbers Outside of Search 98 | * Covered somewhat with the announcement discussion 99 | 100 | 101 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 102 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 103 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 104 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 105 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 106 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 107 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 108 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 109 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 110 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 111 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 112 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 113 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 114 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 115 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 116 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 117 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 118 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 119 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 120 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 121 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 122 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 123 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 124 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 125 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-06-15.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **June 15, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/129](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/129) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 6 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 7 | 8 | ## **Attendees:** 9 | 10 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 11 | * David Strauss ([@davidstrauss][davidstrauss]) 12 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 13 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 14 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 15 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 16 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 17 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 18 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 19 | * Chris Papazian ([@cpapazian][cpapazian]) 20 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 21 | 22 | ## **Excused:** 23 | 24 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 25 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 26 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 27 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 28 | 29 | ## **Absent:** 30 | 31 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 32 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 33 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 34 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | * Approve [last call's minutes.](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/130) 39 | * ac@amp.dev - new email group address! 40 | * Check roster for TSC & Design Review Meetings 41 | * TSC - June 17 @ 20:00 42 | * Design - June 18 @ 0:00 (Bento WG) 43 | * Maggie raises hand 44 | * Report from recent TSC or Design Review Meetings 45 | * None 46 | * Outreach Team updates & follow-up: Guest Alex Duran 47 | * New dates for online/ digital event in September time frame 48 | * Progress on collaboration on case studies from this group - Automattic & Wordpress Case study 49 | * Work with Alex RE the content calendar, also they work with Wordsmithy 50 | * [AMP Summit](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GY9qNrjxM6Ro-jFSGscL11sKQA46msRMdSrQMhTL8K0/edit#gid=461228868) & OpenJS Collab summit 51 | * Most of the AMP Summit speakers are Googlers 52 | * Looking to create a target for % of content that doesn’t come from Google 53 | * Next step in the process of moving in to the foundation 54 | * Check[ issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 55 | * [#124](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/124) & [FAQ Document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/15SBggPGOT-qIVJ7fl3yqGtLrY26lTJT3NQlgeqdfnhQ/edit?ts=5edfc7f5) 56 | * Requests for upcoming sessions 57 | * User research studies 58 | * Accessibility 59 | * Payments (& Signed Exchanges) - framework work for value prop (esp. For retail). 60 | * Recruiting for AC members 61 | * AMP4 Email - hasn’t reached critical mass; needs a clear pathway - reach out to the PM of that group 62 | * What are the value propositions of each feature 63 | 64 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 65 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 66 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 67 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 68 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 69 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 70 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 71 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 72 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 73 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 74 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 75 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 76 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 77 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 78 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 79 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 80 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 81 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 82 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 83 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 84 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 85 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 86 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 87 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 88 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-06-29.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **June 29, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/132](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/132) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 7 | 8 | ## **Attendees:** 9 | 10 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 11 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 12 | * David Strauss ([@davidstrauss][davidstrauss]) 13 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 14 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 15 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 16 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 17 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 18 | 19 | ## **Excused:** 20 | 21 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 22 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 23 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 24 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 25 | 26 | ## **Absent:** 27 | 28 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 29 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 30 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 31 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 32 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 33 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 34 | 35 | # **Minutes** 36 | 37 | * Approve [last call's minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/131) - 38 | * +1 if OK otherwise will merge by EOD 39 | * Check roster for TSC meeting - 40 | * Next meeting is July 15 @ 20:00 UTC 41 | * Last meeting report 42 | * New TSC Member: Kassiana from Axios 43 | * Summit Planning 44 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 45 | * July 1 - Infra & Outreach (Eli) 46 | * July 9 - Performance (Maggie) 47 | * July 15 - Validation & Caching 48 | * Last meeting report: Meeting was cancelled 49 | * Need to start Adding AC members to issues so they are notified in the event a meeting is cancelled. 50 | * Member resigning 51 | * Proposal: host election in the Fall to accommodate members who are transitioning + recent resignations. Group on the call is +1. 52 | * Elections 53 | * Consider great candidates; consider which voices are missing. 54 | * Consider your own commitments and availability 55 | * Consider whether there are responsibilities to add or those that can be mentored 56 | * AMP summit feedback 57 | * Timezone issues prevalent for our AC group 58 | * Jory to locate recordings of AMP Summit Sessions & Malte Keynote via email 59 | * Check[ issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 60 | * Review & Discuss issues related to ‘Fixing URLs’ focus area 61 | * Sumo considers advancing a position one-pager 62 | * Review & Discuss the Stakeholder Input Process (#106) for constituency conduit focus area 63 | * AC members to approve the pull request 64 | * Meta: Tobie will be away through July 25 65 | 66 | 67 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 68 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 69 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 70 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 71 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 72 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 73 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 74 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 75 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 76 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 77 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 78 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 79 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 80 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 81 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 82 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 83 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 84 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 85 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 86 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 87 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 88 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 89 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 90 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 91 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-07-13.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **July 13, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/134](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/134) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 6 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 7 | 8 | ## **Attendees:** 9 | 10 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 11 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 12 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 13 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 14 | * Kasiana McLenaghan ([@KasianaMac][KasianaMac]) 15 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 16 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 17 | 18 | ## **Excused:** 19 | 20 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 21 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 22 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 23 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 24 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 25 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 26 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 27 | 28 | ## **Absent:** 29 | 30 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 31 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 32 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 33 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 34 | 35 | # **Minutes** 36 | 37 | * **Approve last call's minutes.** 38 | * [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/133](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/133) 39 | * **Check roster for TSC meeting** 40 | * Welcome Kasiana! New TSC Rep. 41 | * Past - cancelled 42 | * Upcoming 43 | * July 15 @ 20:00 44 | * **Check roster for Design reviews.** 45 | * (Past) July 9 meeting - Maggie - cancelled? 46 | * Upcoming - 47 | * July 15 @ 15:30 - Caching WG (Sumo maybe) 48 | * **FAQs relating to AMP & Google Page XP ranking** 49 | * Clarification sought on [Core Web Vitals question](https://docs.google.com/document/d/15SBggPGOT-qIVJ7fl3yqGtLrY26lTJT3NQlgeqdfnhQ/edit?ts=5f08fc9f) 50 | * **Stakeholder input process** 51 | * [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/106](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/106) 52 | * **Organizing for AC Elections (2020-2021)** 53 | * Timeline / # of open spots 54 | * Timeline - Late August / September 55 | * number of spots - no preference, just keen to have people who are committed. Enough to ensure a quorum 56 | * What contingencies are still represented in our group 57 | * Accessibility, CDN, News, (take an inventory of represented Points of View) (Some contingencies include news ad media, e-commerce, CDN, accessibility, enablers/vendors, industry "watchdogs") framework builders (because AMP is moving this direction) 58 | * 59 | * [AC New Member Expectations Documentation (#104)](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/104) 60 | * Onboarding Kit - rhythm of the work, cadence of the meetings, what needs to come out of the discourse 61 | * How to bring ideas to this group - how those ideas are approved / flow as recommendations to the TSC (What is your part, how you impact) 62 | * Process for onboarding new AC members- maybe have a new AC member meeting, share tribal knowledge like who’s on the AC, how long and what their interest is, etc. 63 | * From Sumo in Chat: 64 | * 1. How to raise and track new ideas (i.e. GitHub) 65 | * 2. Engaging in discourse and raising representative and/or contrarian points of view 66 | * 3. Taking ownership of 'issues' assigned during meetings 67 | * 4. Liaising with TSC 68 | * [Ref: Working Mode Document](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/WORKING_MODE.md#membership) 69 | * [Activities](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/blob/master/WORKING_MODE.md#activities) 70 | * [Find Nominees for AC interested in Standards (#119)](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/119) 71 | * Part of the constituency we may want to recruitment 72 | * **Check[ issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2).** 73 | * #116 (Sumo) 74 | * AI - [AC members to review Sumo’s doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KUfAyK2LjqE4A3y0MiUQE2y2I3AxK78wG7qlf3C5SAE/edit) 75 | * Maggie - is the attention being split between the direction of 76 | * Kasiana happy to bring this to next TSC meeting 77 | * How will AMP prioritize - split paths to preserve adoption (SXGs vs. framework) 78 | * Pablo - maintenance of 2 different “lines” of distribution 79 | * Kasiana - how do you create the brightly lit path - the benefit has to outweigh the things our bosses hate, or this is what you will miss out on (traffic driver) - this helps frame/drive the paths AMP could take 80 | * Next Week 81 | * Maybe Payments 82 | * AI - See about getting Bento group 83 | * AI - Jory to draft v1 of member expectations documents 84 | * AI - request for updates from AMP components for Payments 85 | * AI - Kasiana would like to talk to Pablo, Senthil - “this is what the bosses yell at you about” - Jory to facilitate contact info swap 86 | 87 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 88 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 89 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 90 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 91 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 92 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 93 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 94 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 95 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 96 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 97 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 98 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 99 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 100 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 101 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 102 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 103 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 104 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 105 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 106 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 107 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 108 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 109 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 110 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 111 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 112 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 113 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-08-10.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **August 10, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/138](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/138) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 12 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 13 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 14 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 15 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 16 | * Jeff Jose ([@jeffjose][jeffjose]) 17 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 18 | 19 | ## **Excused:** 20 | 21 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 22 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 23 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 24 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 25 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 26 | 27 | ## **Absent:** 28 | 29 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 30 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 31 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 32 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 33 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 34 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | * Conversation Jeff Jose regarding AMP Payments (max 25 mins) 39 | * Pre-submitted questions from AC members: 40 | * State of payments on AMP (what is supported, planned, etc.) 41 | * Jeff: Make payment as easy as possible on AMP. 42 | * End to end solution desired 43 | * Original proposal was amp-pay (a component inside of AMP) 44 | * PCI-compliance issues prevented AMP from writing their own code 45 | * Different approach: can we wrap existing libraries? 46 | * In parallel, emerging Web standard: Web Payments API 47 | * How do we merge those? Merge wrapping + standard 48 | * API inspired from the standard 49 | * Current state: not a lot of work on that space (prioritization on CCPA/GDPR, plus other e-commerce priorities). 50 | * What’s the roadmap? 51 | * No intention to write our own for regulatory reasons. 52 | * No clear next steps at this point. 53 | * Little interest from the community. 54 | * Problem: 55 | * feedback from the community is that developers want to be able to use the same provider with AMP they’re using elsewhere. 56 | * Web Payment Requests had little uptake. 57 | * If this matters but is not critical to the roadmap, would it make sense to have a dedicated working group to help build the case, suggest solution or propose software? Is this an opportunity to foster more community contribution? 58 | * Some orgs are going to be their own payment gateways 59 | * Enabling payments seems to be a high-value activity; deepening shopping experience / expediting payments 60 | * Should this be a priority - esp for retailers; If AMP could do more heavy lifting the checkout experience would match discovery 61 | * Needs expertise of the right stakeholders - team does not currently have this in house 62 | * Next Steps/AIs 63 | * How to start a conversation about new working group - discuss with TSC? Clarify what the plan is & determine interest & availability; resource needs 64 | * Follow up with additional questions to Jeff 65 | * Approve [last call's minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/135). 66 | * Check rosters for TSC & Design Review meetings. 67 | * 8/12 @ 20 UTC - Design, Viewers (no updates) 68 | * 8/20 @ 0 UTC - Design, UI 69 | * 8/26 @ 15:30 UTC - Design, TBD 70 | * 8/26 @ 20 UTC - TSC - Bento/Off-Cache AMP - Eli 71 | * [Review Member Expectations PR](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/137) 72 | * Elections 73 | * Maggie: Noticing significant declines in AMP page performance reported in Lighthouse. Pages that were scoring in the 90s now below 20. AI to document in Perf issues #87 / #84 & report to TSC 74 | 75 | 76 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 77 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 78 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 79 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 80 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 81 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 82 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 83 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 84 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 85 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 86 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 87 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 88 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 89 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 90 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 91 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 92 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 93 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 94 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 95 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 96 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 97 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 98 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 99 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 100 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 101 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 102 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 103 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-08-24.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **August 24, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/139](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/139) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 12 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 13 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 14 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 15 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 16 | 17 | ## **Excused:** 18 | 19 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 20 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 21 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 22 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 23 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 24 | 25 | ## **Absent:** 26 | 27 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 28 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 29 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 30 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 31 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 32 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 33 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 34 | 35 | # **Minutes** 36 | 37 | * [Approve last call's minutes.](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/140) 38 | * Check roster for TSC & Design Review meetings. 39 | * TSC - Eli attending on 26 Aug 40 | * Design Review - likely cancelled 41 | * Guest Discussion: Bento & Looking Forward with Naina Raisinghani 42 | * Intention from the early days - for analytics, devs liked using those except they could only use those in AMP. Adopting AMP seemed like a binary. 43 | * However with other libraries was you could use some components outside of the core library, this approach was the inspiration for Bento 44 | * Intention is to re-write a bunch of those components in Preact (currently 5). AMP selector, iframe, working on sidebar and carousel 45 | * Page experience - looking to improve onramping/ experimenting for new developers. 46 | * Pulls in like any other module eg an npm module. This allows AMP to be pulled in as valid HTML. Terence suggests improving the messaging on the documentation to clarify. 47 | * 143 components - idea is to pick 30-40 most used and release those early next year. We don’t know the page experience timeline at this time. 48 | * Late 2021 - can we bento-y AMP’s runtime. Immediate need is to publish more components and get the beta out. 49 | * Then think about breaking it up to better address CWV & page experience. 50 | * Naina also provides an update on component review for accessibility. Tetralogical is working through review & documentation. Naina to share repo after call. Working on design process and the next ~20 components - Bento components to not add new functionality - they have parity with AMP components. 51 | * CWV measurements - please include questions there - Jory to send that doc out after the call 52 | * Elections - Go-forward plan & schedule: 53 | * Timeline 54 | * Nominations open ASAP through Oct. 2 55 | * Review nominees Round 1 at Oct. 5 meeting 56 | * Conclude election process / Final decisions at Oct. 19 meeting 57 | * Announce results on Oct. 20 58 | * Election Process 59 | * Open call for nominations through google form 60 | * (Ensure non-Google way to apply & ask questions - @edent) 61 | * Review nominees 62 | * Multiple Election views run 63 | * Consensus on outcomes 64 | * Next Steps 65 | * [Publish Nomination blog post](https://docs.google.com/document/d/17hkuMVtQzgu6IY_7v-lPX9eUUZhPoEjql5nS19JsP4o/edit?ts=5f3d02f9) 66 | * Promote nominations & recruit 67 | * Connect with each of you individually about your 2021 plans 68 | * [#141](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/141) - update working mode 69 | * No questions, +1 to merge 70 | * Payments WG Conversation next steps - follow-up 71 | * One of the next steps was to discuss with partners about their interest / willingness to participate 72 | * Commerce folks haven’t jumped in because payments have felt like an after thought - retailers have moved on and don’t see AMP as important to their outcomes 73 | * Make payments an example working product for subscriptions? 74 | * We need to start thinking about the core business outcomes - can we talk to Malte/Rudy about what data show? 75 | * Core principal of AMP is now more a tool for development - need to be clearer about the strategy of components or performance. This seems unclear 76 | * AMP no longer required for CWV - do we need to fine-tune the mission / vision of AMP? What does a successful 2021 look like for AMP 77 | * Jory to debrief Tobie & follow up with group on the mailing list. 78 | * Next meeting - Sept. 7 is a holiday, likely cancelled 79 | * Plan for Sept. 21 - follow-ups on Payments, possible Vision 2021 with TSC, issue #142 80 | 81 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 82 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 83 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 84 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 85 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 86 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 87 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 88 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 89 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 90 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 91 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 92 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 93 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 94 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 95 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 96 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 97 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 98 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 99 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 100 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 101 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 102 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 103 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 104 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 105 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 106 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 107 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 108 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-09-21.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **September 21, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/143](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/143) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Jory Burson ([@jorydotcom][jorydotcom]) 13 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 14 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 15 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 16 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 17 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 18 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 19 | * Naina Raisinghani ([@nainar][nainar]) - guest 20 | 21 | ## **Excused:** 22 | 23 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 24 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 25 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 26 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 27 | 28 | ## **Absent:** 29 | 30 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 31 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 32 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 33 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 34 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 35 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 36 | 37 | # **Minutes** 38 | 39 | * Approve last call's minutes. 40 | * Please +1 [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/144](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/144) 41 | * Check roster for TSC & Design review meetings. 42 | * Upcoming Design review meetings do not yet have agendas; jory to followup via email 43 | * Naina - Bento + AMP deck 44 | * [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wZVuLWey6rvNll0aoUuIkhGW63LM6jxbB7lYYZlkLlU/edit](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wZVuLWey6rvNll0aoUuIkhGW63LM6jxbB7lYYZlkLlU/edit) \ 45 | => Follow-up with Rudy on Search integration of non-AMP content. 46 | * Discover / Search Carousel 47 | * Terence’s questions ([https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/143#issuecomment-696241698](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/143#issuecomment-696241698)): paired AMP users see AMP Bento as more viable/sustainable vs. AMP first users. 48 | * Why pick AMP? Better Core Web vitals by default. Sustainably meeting those over time. 49 | * New publishers could use just bits of AMP for e.g. improving Cumulative Layout Shift (CLS) score 50 | * AMP wants to work as a presentation layer on top of whatever frameworks you’re using. 51 | * What about the situation for folks who have already invested in AMP? This deck is really focused on folks who haven’t done yet. 52 | * Election update 53 | * Waiting on a couple of folks to reply (opt-in or opt-out for next year) - please do so! ([https://forms.gle/wKwxT7goKuFHxus59](https://forms.gle/wKwxT7goKuFHxus59)) 54 | * Looking to get more diverse participation - need more nominees to ensure a good balance of representation 55 | * Please bring ~1-2 nominees! [https://forms.gle/XuJAaoVKkBPMGZMg9](https://forms.gle/XuJAaoVKkBPMGZMg9) 56 | * AMP Fest 13 October 2020: [https://twitter.com/AMPhtml/status/1306720466984460290](https://twitter.com/AMPhtml/status/1306720466984460290) 57 | * Need more details 58 | * [#142](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/142) (Tabling discussion for next meeting - this is currently a valid law in Brazil) 59 | * Guilherme to drive 60 | 61 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 62 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 63 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 64 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 65 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 66 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 67 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 68 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 69 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 70 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 71 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 72 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 73 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 74 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 75 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 76 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 77 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 78 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 79 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 80 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 81 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 82 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 83 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 84 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 85 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 86 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 87 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 88 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-10-05.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # October 5, 2020 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/146](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/146) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 7 | 8 | ## Attendees: 9 | 10 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 13 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 14 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 15 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 16 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 17 | * David Strauss - TSC ([@davidstrauss][davidstrauss]) 18 | 19 | ## **Excused:** 20 | 21 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 22 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 23 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 24 | 25 | ## **Absent:** 26 | 27 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 28 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 29 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 30 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 31 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 32 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 33 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 34 | 35 | # **Minutes** 36 | 37 | * Ordinary Business 38 | * Approve last meeting’s minutes 39 | * Terrence - Design Review meeting attendee 40 | * G - TSC Meeting attendee volunteer 41 | * AMP Fest - Oct. 13 - Find someone who can tell us more about it! 42 | * Discussion of AMP AC Nominees and vetting / voting process 43 | * 19 candidates responded to the form 44 | * 8 AC reps leaving - many women, also persons from CDN, services, and publications 45 | * 9 AC reps staying aboard 46 | * Perhaps reach out if we need more information about the roles individuals fill within their organization if we are concerned about fielding multiple positions from one organization. 47 | * Pruned 1-2 persons from the list 48 | * Next steps: TL & JB to send the nominees to the list along with a form to rank order the candidates. 49 | 50 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 51 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 52 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 53 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 54 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 55 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 56 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 57 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 58 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 59 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 60 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 61 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 62 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 63 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 64 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 65 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 66 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 67 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 68 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 69 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward 70 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 71 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 72 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 73 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 74 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 75 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 76 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 77 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-10-19.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **October 19, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/148](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/148) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 14 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 15 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 16 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 17 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 18 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 19 | 20 | ## **Excused:** 21 | 22 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 23 | * Melanie Sumner ([@melsumner][melsumner]) 24 | 25 | ## **Absent:** 26 | 27 | * Ali Ghassemi ([@aghassemi][aghassemi]) 28 | * Charles Vazac ([@cvazac][cvazac]) 29 | * David Merrell ([@dymerrell][dymerrell]) 30 | * Maggie Wettergreen ([@mjwettergreen][mjwettergreen]) 31 | * Melissa DePuydt ([@msteffan][msteffan]) 32 | * Brian Howard ([@brianwhoward][brianwhoward]) 33 | * Tim Jones ([@tones][tones]) 34 | 35 | # **Minutes** 36 | 37 | * Approve last call's minutes. 38 | * Check roster for TSC & Design Review meetings 39 | * Reports from recent meetings 40 | * Upcoming meetings 41 | * Complete new AC Member Election process 42 | * Discussion of the candidates; resolved election 43 | * Review Open PRs 44 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 45 | 46 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 47 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 48 | [cvazac]: https://github.com/cvazac 49 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 50 | [levidurfee]: https://github.com/levidurfee 51 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 52 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 53 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 54 | [tones]: https://github.com/tones 55 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 56 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 57 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 58 | [dymerrell]: https://github.com/dymerrell 59 | [mjwettergreen]: https://github.com/mjwettergreen 60 | [melsumner]: https://github.com/melsumner 61 | [msteffan]: https://github.com/msteffan 62 | [TedShuter]: https://github.com/TedShuter 63 | [aghassemi]: https://github.com/aghassemi 64 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 65 | [brianwhoward]: https://github.com/brianwhoward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-11-02.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **November 2, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/153](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/153) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 12 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 13 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 14 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 15 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 16 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 17 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 18 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 19 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 20 | * Candice Gleason ([@candice-womp][candice-womp]) 21 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 22 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 23 | * Faizan Siddiqi 24 | 25 | ## **Excused:** 26 | 27 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 28 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 29 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 30 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 31 | 32 | ## **Absent:** 33 | 34 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 35 | 36 | # **Minutes** 37 | 38 | * Round Robin Introductions of Everyone 39 | * New Member Onboarding items overview 40 | * Project Governance & Structure 41 | * Private mailing list, Slack, and GitHub Org 42 | * Member Expectations Doc 43 | * Minutes & Minute Taking 44 | * Questions: 45 | * What is in Scope? AMP format vs. AMP Cache, for example? 46 | * Often have a lot of comments and questions around things like web packaging, some product questions like Search; scope is 47 | * Action Items 48 | * Update README with new Members - Jory 49 | * Publish Blog post announcing everyone - Tobie 50 | * Update document permissions - Jory 51 | 52 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 53 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 54 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 55 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 56 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 57 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 58 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 59 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 60 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 61 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 62 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 63 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 64 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 65 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 66 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 67 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 68 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 69 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 70 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 71 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 72 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 73 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 74 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 75 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-11-16.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **November 16, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/154](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/154) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 13 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 14 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 15 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 16 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 17 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 18 | * Faizan Siddiqi () 19 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 20 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 21 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 22 | 23 | ## **Excused:** 24 | 25 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 26 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 27 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 28 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 29 | * Candice Gleason ([@candice-womp][candice-womp]) 30 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 31 | 32 | ## **Absent:** 33 | 34 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 35 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 36 | 37 | # **Minutes** 38 | 39 | * Approve last call's minutes 40 | * Check roster for TSC & Design review meetings. 41 | * Nov. 18 - TSC Meeting @ 20:00 UTC; issue backlog 42 | * Nov. 18 - Design Review @ 16:30; Google Read Aloud Player 43 | * Discussion: OpenJS Foundation stage advancement & relationship between the project and foundation 44 | * Administrative confirmation - check mailing list success, GitHub Invitation acceptance, Slack Channel join, document access 45 | * Action Jory: Double check Slack invites (& GH Invites) 46 | * Collaborative Priority Setting ([Jamboard Activity](https://jamboard.google.com/d/16akbxxNik1KtBfUQEhH2FevISd9bUMMu_KYHCgUBcn8/viewer)) 47 | * What topics would this AC cohort like to drive to impact in 2021? 48 | * Payments 49 | * Publishing 50 | * Accessibility 51 | * Privacy 52 | * Standards 53 | * Impact of upcoming CWV changes 54 | * Measuring Impact & Adoption 55 | * Looking for 2-3 Key Objectives 56 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 57 | 58 | 59 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 60 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 61 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 62 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 63 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 64 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 65 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 66 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 67 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 68 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 69 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 70 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 71 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 72 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 73 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 74 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 75 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 76 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 77 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 78 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 79 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 80 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 81 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 82 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-11-30.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **November 30, 2020** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/157](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/157) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 14 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 15 | * Candice Gleason ([@candice-womp][candice-womp]) 16 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 17 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 18 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 19 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 20 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 21 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 22 | 23 | ## **Excused:** 24 | 25 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 26 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 27 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 28 | * Faizan Siddiqi 29 | 30 | ## **Absent:** 31 | 32 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 33 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 34 | 35 | # **Minutes** 36 | 37 | * Approve last call's [minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/158). 38 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 39 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 40 | * Collaborative Priority Setting, Continued (Jamboard Activity) 41 | * Organized Jamboard into a google document for us to easier discuss and organize: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gg0CoEKr7Ec8IsKFYBMkrCv1F9L9QDRHb59fnvECtt8/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gg0CoEKr7Ec8IsKFYBMkrCv1F9L9QDRHb59fnvECtt8/edit) 42 | * Rough categorization and prioritization of the 10 categories 43 | * Identified each item as a How, What, or Why 44 | * Show of hands to determine which items were most compelling to the most people 45 | * Discussion of privacy and core web vitals to further unpack these 'why' items 46 | * Action to Jory & Tobie: convert these to issues & continue conversation on GitHub 47 | 48 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 49 | 50 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 51 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 52 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 53 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 54 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 55 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 56 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 57 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 58 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 59 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 60 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 61 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 62 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 63 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 64 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 65 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 66 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 67 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 68 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 69 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 70 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 71 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 72 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 73 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 74 | 75 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2020-12-14.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # December 14, 2020 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/161](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/161) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | 10 | ## Attendees: 11 | 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 14 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 15 | * Terence Eden ([@edent][edent]) 16 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 17 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 18 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 19 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 20 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 21 | * Joey Rozier - Guest ([@mrjoro][mrjoro]) 22 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 23 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 24 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 25 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 26 | 27 | 28 | ## Excused: 29 | 30 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 31 | * Candice Gleason ([@candice-womp][candice-womp]) 32 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 33 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 34 | * Faizan Siddiqi ([@SiddiqiFaizan][SiddiqiFaizan]) 35 | 36 | ## Absent: 37 | 38 | 39 | # Minutes: 40 | 41 | * Approval of last meeting’s minutes 42 | * No Roster for TSC & Design Review meetings 43 | * Next Meeting - Second Week of January / Dec. 28 session cancelled for the holidays 44 | * EMEA Meeting - still working on finding an acceptable bi-weekly time. Please reply to the doodle poll 45 | * Election Results post is now live - thank you all. 46 | * Year Plan issue: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/167](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/167) 47 | * Tracks progress throughout the year and helps keep track of the calendar - there are not too many working meetings throughout the year. 48 | * Funding AMP dependencies through Open Collective 49 | * Weigh in here: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-tsc/issues/56](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-tsc/issues/56) 50 | * 2021 Focus Areas based on the brainstorming sessions [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%222021+focus%22](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%222021+focus%22) 51 | * [Standards](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/162) 52 | * Champions - Terrence, possibly Kelsey, Julie 53 | * Discussion RE standardizing stories 54 | * Rigor in alignment with best practices and standards; developing relationships with standards bodies such as W3C and IETF 55 | * [Web Component Community Group @ W3C](https://www.w3.org/community/webcomponents/) (from Jeremy) 56 | * Guest Ideas 57 | * Lea Verou 58 | * Have Robin / Justin come speak (AI to Kelsey) 59 | * [Marketing](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/163) 60 | * Champions - Jono, Marissa, Tom 61 | * Get a handle on the gap of people’s perception - quantify the issue 62 | * What is the existing marketing function doing? 63 | * Clarify - this is not about “selling AMP” but clarifying value prop 64 | * Guest Ideas - Marketing WG members; prominent googlers? 65 | * [Privacy](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/164) 66 | * Eli, Kelsey 67 | * Issues on this that are still open from last year 68 | * CCPA issue 69 | * Policies RE AMP Cache 70 | * Research on current issues / current state of affairs / doing an audit 71 | * Who has not adopted AMP because they can’t find the privacy configurations they need? 72 | * Building privacy into the process, like we did with accessibility. 73 | * Guests Ideas - publishers who did not adopt 74 | * [Core Web Vitals](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/165) 75 | * Champions - Julie, Marissa, Senthil, Jono, Pablo, Tom, Guilherme 76 | * See Guiherme’s email; 77 | * AMP YouTube example from Pablo 78 | * Calculate the impact of certain modules / components 79 | * Understanding the priorities - perf was a core priority, has this changed? What happens when you take the Google Cache out of the equation 80 | * Guests Ideas - people from the lighthouse team? (Ilya, Addy, Elizabeth, Paul) 81 | * [AMP & Search](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/166) 82 | * Champions - Jeremy, Marissa, Tom, Jono, Joe 83 | * Clarification of the clear reason / message about what the benefit is for the AMP Format 84 | * What problem AMP solves for publishers now that the problem to solve isn’t “get in the search carousel” 85 | 86 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 87 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 88 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 89 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 90 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 91 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 92 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 93 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 94 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 95 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 96 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 97 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 98 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 99 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 100 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 101 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 102 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 103 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 104 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 105 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 106 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 107 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 108 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 109 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 110 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 111 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-01-11.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 2 | # **January 11, 2021 (Americas/EMEA)** 3 | 4 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171) 5 | 6 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 7 | 8 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 13 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 14 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 15 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 16 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 17 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 18 | * Candice Gleason ([@candice-womp][candice-womp]) 19 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 20 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 21 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 22 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 23 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 24 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 25 | * Kasiana McLenaghan ([@KasianaMac][KasianaMac], Guest) 26 | 27 | ## **Excused:** 28 | 29 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 30 | 31 | # **Minutes** 32 | 33 | * Housekeeping 34 | * [Approve last call's minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/168). 35 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 36 | * 13 Jan 2021 @ 20:00 UTC 37 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 38 | * None 39 | * EMEA/APAC meeting scheduled! 40 | * 12 January - we will keep separate notes 41 | * All are welcome to attend both or either meeting 42 | * Opening remarks 43 | * [@edent](https://github.com/edent) resignation ([#170](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/170)) 44 | * Find new champion(s) for [Standards focus](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/162). 45 | * Kelsey, Jeremy interested in championing this year 46 | * Follow-through on last year's focus on accessibility (see [#62](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/62)). 47 | * Discussion: bringing AMP improvements to standards and asking to sunset AMP caches (see [comment](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171#issuecomment-757005803)). 48 | * With the improvement of web frameworks and the additional capabilities of key constituents such as publishers, this is an opportune moment to evaluate the key benefits of AMP and better incorporate them into the web platform. Ideas from Kelsey: 49 | * As an AC, we can have a viewpoint / proposal to publish & share 50 | * Brainstorming session around the concrete list of benefits we think can be brought to the platform 51 | * Pablo reminds of the perf benefits for low-connectivity users that they experienced at El Pais 52 | * Core Web Vitals as a ranking factor / threshold which helps the migration path. 53 | * critical for publishers to understand more about the Core Web Vitals rollout to be able to set roadmaps. 54 | * ACTION: Invite Rudy to come share their thoughts / information around thresholds 55 | * Disambiguation between the format and the collection of web components; there is a degree of education and support for the groups who are publishing but do not have the technical capabilities. Maintenance of both is a burden. 56 | * New Feature policy seems to be a great direction; this new standard partly driven from AMP. TSC began to keep a document of this and similar standards work that have been inspired / informed by AMP. Could be a good starting point (see [https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/blob/42f449cd3bd15c1ca56bc2a0a8a3f62a7cebb0cf/contributing/web-standards-related-to-amp.md](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/blob/42f449cd3bd15c1ca56bc2a0a8a3f62a7cebb0cf/contributing/web-standards-related-to-amp.md)) 57 | * Discussion about graceful deprecation; moving key innovations out into the standard and deprecating per a sensible lifecycle. jQuery, other projects are informative 58 | * Update about next meeting (CAT presentation by [@darobin](https://github.com/darobin) and [@justinph](https://github.com/justinph), see [#172](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/172) for details). Highly recommended to review the materials on #172 prior to the next meeting. 59 | 60 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 61 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 62 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 63 | [edent]: https://github.com/edent 64 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 65 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 66 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 67 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 68 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 69 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 70 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 71 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 72 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 73 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 74 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 75 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 76 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 77 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 78 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 79 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 80 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 81 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 82 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 83 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 84 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 85 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-01-12.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **January 12, 2021 (EMEA/APAC)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 13 | * Faizan Siddiqi([@siddiqifaizan][siddiqifaizan]) 14 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 15 | 16 | # **Minutes** 17 | 18 | * Intros 19 | * Todo: Tobie to ask TSC + design reviews to publish agenda earlier if possible 20 | * Housekeeping 21 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 22 | * 13 Jan 2021 @ 20:00 UTC 23 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 24 | * Opening remarks 25 | * [@edent](https://github.com/edent) resignation ([#170](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/170)) 26 | * Find new champion(s) for [Standards focus](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/162). 27 | * Jett also interested to champion this. 28 | * Follow-through on last year's focus on accessibility (see [#62](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/62)). 29 | * Reviewed the different focus areas and had members sign-up for the ones they were interested in. 30 | * Discussion: bringing AMP improvements to standards and asking to sunset AMP caches (see [comment](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171#issuecomment-757005803)). 31 | * Question to publishers: what are the issues that you are having with AMP documents being served by AMP caches? Which of these issues are still not resolved by Signed Exchanges and why? 32 | * In Pakistan: low bandwidth issues even for 4G + data issues (5mb daily free tier) => people consuming stale news. 33 | * Using AMP to enable < 5mb (free tier) with PWA/AMP hybrid 34 | * Outcomes: 35 | * 20 million new subscribers 36 | * Fresh news 37 | * Civic engagement 38 | * Privacy preserving pre-rendering (PPP) 39 | * Important to make distinction between pre-rendering and pre-fetching 40 | * PPP is only useful for true cross-origin navigation 41 | * Protect the IP address of the user 42 | * Other solutions to PPP: [https://blog.chromium.org/2020/12/continuing-our-journey-to-bring-instant.html](https://blog.chromium.org/2020/12/continuing-our-journey-to-bring-instant.html) 43 | * Can we have multiple proxies? Would this require an audit 44 | * Can Web Packaging help with PPP? 45 | * Doesn’t enable pre-rendering by itself 46 | * Other solutions in the work. Needs more discussion. 47 | * Update about next meeting (CAT presentation by [@darobin](https://github.com/darobin) and [@justinph](https://github.com/justinph), see [#172](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/172) for details). 48 | * Todo: Tobie to share video as soon as it is available. 49 | 50 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 51 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 52 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 53 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 54 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-01-25.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **January 25, 2021** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/171) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 13 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 14 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 15 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 16 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 17 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 18 | * Eli Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 19 | * Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 20 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 21 | * Candice Gleason ([@candice-womp][candice-womp]) 22 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 23 | * Rudy Galfi ([@rudygalfi][rudygalfi]) - AMP TSC 24 | * David Strauss ([@DavidStrauss][DavidStrauss]) - AMP TSC 25 | * Chris Papazian ([@cpapazian][cpapazian]) - AMP TSC 26 | * Kasiana McLenaghan ([@KasianaMac][KasianaMac]) - AMP TSC 27 | * Justin Heideman ([@justinph][justinph]) - Guest, NYT 28 | * Robin Berjon ([@darobin][darobin]) - Guest, NYT 29 | * Kristofer Baxter ([@kristoferbaxter][kristoferbaxter]) — Guest, AMP 30 | * Devin Mullins ([@twifkak][twifkak]) — Guest, AMP 31 | * Madison Miner ([@MadisonMiner][MadisonMiner]) — Guest, WompMobile 32 | * Michael Buettner - Guest, Google Chrome 33 | 34 | ## **Excused:** 35 | 36 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 37 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 38 | 39 | # **Minutes:** 40 | 41 | * TSC & Design Review Meetings 42 | * Let Jory know if you would like to attend Wednesday’s Design review meeting 43 | * TSC review will be cancelled in favor of attending Design Meeting (conflict occurs every 6 weeks) 44 | * See Minutes from last meeting - approve PR once you’ve reviewed 45 | * Recording today’s presentations for sharing with the EMEA/APAC meeting. Not for historical archiving. 46 | * Presentation - Robin Berjon & Justin Heideman on the CAT proposal. 47 | * Discussion: 48 | * Is it possible for publishers to move off of valid and/or cached AMP if they want to? 49 | * Not possible if certain key Web properties still requires valid AMP pages 50 | * Not possible if perf requirements make it impossible for content that is neither prefetched nor prerendered to compete against content which is. 51 | * Critical to get clarity so publishers can plan accordingly and be ready by May deadline. 52 | * Discussion of proposal to remove AMP Caches 53 | * For certain publishers, removing AMP caches is necessary for a broader diversity of content to exist and for fair competition in search engine placement. 54 | * For smaller content creators, AMP caches are a welcome addition that speed-up their content for free and they don't really have an issue with it. 55 | * CAT next steps - more discussions and input from stakeholders. Forward path TBD in discussion with others including groups like the AC. 56 | * Perhaps useful to break this into categories for requirements gathering? 57 | * AC could be helpful by clarifying and documenting the distinction between the different components of AMP (open source project and the related products, e.g. the AMP caches), and clarify stakeholders/problem/opportunity areas within each. 58 | * Suggestion to dive into Core Web Vitals (CWV)? As these issues seem to overlap a lot. 59 | * Plan is to establish a group of AC members to focus on CWV. 60 | * Note that this also ties into 2021 roadmap to be discussed in next meeting (and already presented at the TSC). 61 | * Getting clarity as to how CWV are going to work is critical to the Ac's constituencies. 62 | * CWV are designed to reflect what happens in the real world and not a specific implementation detail. 63 | * The understanding is that this includes the impact of AMP caches (prerendering, prefetching). 64 | * Proposal process for creating subcommittees. 65 | * PR for an issue template to drive lightweight process for subcommittee discussions: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/176](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/176) 66 | * Call for participants in the Core Web Vitals Subcommittee (open to non-AC members): 67 | [@DavidStrauss][DavidStrauss], [@darobin][darobin], [@candice-womp][candice-womp], [@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8], [@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert], [@baconjulie][baconjulie], [@MadisonMiner][MadisonMiner]. 68 | * Aside - Infra WG to look into renaming main branch of `amphtml` repo. Other repos done already. Significant work to make sure all tooling and services are compatible with a renamed branch name for `amphtml` explains the delay in getting it updated. Julie to open an issue for us to track this. 69 | 70 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 71 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 72 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 73 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 74 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 75 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 76 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 77 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 78 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 79 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 80 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 81 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 82 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 83 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 84 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 85 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 86 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 87 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 88 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 89 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 90 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 91 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 92 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 93 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 94 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 95 | [kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 96 | [justinph]: https://github.com/justinph 97 | [twifkak]: https://github.com/twifkak 98 | [darobin]: https://github.com/darobin 99 | [MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 100 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-01-28.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **January 28, 2021 (EMEA/APAC)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/172](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/172) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 13 | * Faizan Siddiqi([@siddiqifaizan][siddiqifaizan]) 14 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 15 | 16 | # **Minutes** 17 | 18 | * Approve last call's minutes. 19 | * Approved 20 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 21 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 22 | * Todo: Tobie to get agendas organized in advance. 23 | * Add subcommittees process to workmode ([#176](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/176)) 24 | * General agreement. "Task force" suggested as name. 25 | * Discuss creation of CWV-focused subcommittee. 26 | * Enough people already. 27 | * Presentation and discussion of the [Content Aggregation Technology (CAT)](https://nytimes.github.io/std-cat/) 28 | * Mention again how a good explainer/infographic about the structure and architecture of the AMP project, its governance, key stakeholders (foundation, caches), etc., would be extremely useful. 29 | * Faizan confirms that AMP definitely helped acquisition for the news providers he mentioned last meeting. Unclear whether cache perf contributed to this or if it was only additional AMP-generated search traffic. 30 | * Proxy-based prefetching: https://blog.chromium.org/2020/12/continuing-our-journey-to-bring-instant.html 31 | 32 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 33 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 34 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 35 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 36 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-02-08.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **February 8, 2021 (Americas/EMEA)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/175](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/175) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel [(@tobie)][tobie] 12 | * Joey Rozier [(@mrjoro)][mrjoro] 13 | * Julie Bacon [(@baconjulie)][baconjulie] 14 | * Pablo Delgado [(@pdelgadorodriguez)][pdelgadorodriguez] 15 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert)][marissa-halpert] 16 | * Kristofer Baxter (Guest, AMP, [@kristoferbaxter][kristoferbaxter]) 17 | * Kasiana McLenaghan (Guest, AMP TSC, [@KasianaMac][KasianaMac]) 18 | * Jeremy Keith [(@adactio)][adactio] 19 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza [(@gui-poa)][gui-poa] 20 | * Chris Papazian (Guest, AMP TSC, [@cpapazian][cpapazian]) 21 | * Candice Gleason [(@candice-womp)][candice-womp] 22 | * Sumantro Das [(@sumodas)][sumodas] 23 | * Jono Alderson [(@jono-alderson)][jono-alderson] 24 | * Joe Alicata [(@wirelessjoe)][wirelessjoe] 25 | * Naina Raisinghani [(@nainar)][nainar] 26 | 27 | ## **Absent:** 28 | 29 | * Kelsey Johnson [(@kelseyjohnson8)][kelseyjohnson8] 30 | 31 | ## **Excused:** 32 | 33 | * Tom Chandler [(@tpchandler)][tpchandler] 34 | * Senthil Padmanabhan [(@senthilp)][senthilp] 35 | * Eli Budelli [(@elibud)][elibud] 36 | 37 | # **Minutes:** 38 | 39 | * [Approve last call's minutes.](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/178) 40 | * Check roster for TSC & Design Review meetings. 41 | * Question about the status of AMP in the OpenJSF. Growth is going away. AMP to move to At Large 42 | * 2021 Roadmap Overview ([slides](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1OsIE3Aj_K4eCqPSQfPJOpRXjIqfzbg_rUovWpu0Pv-o/edit?usp=sharing)). Guest: Naina Raisinghani ([@nainar](https://github.com/nainar)), Product Manager, AMP. 43 | * Brief overview of 2021 goals 44 | * Perf WG to come back to the AC with server side rendering (SSR) plan. 45 | * Q: Is there a plan to include AMP pages in the Chrome UX Report Data? A: Yes 46 | * Resource to self test: https://amp.dev/page-experience/ 47 | * Please send discoverability feedback to Naina 48 | * Overview of target “developer pain point” areas 49 | * Infrastructure updates, including testing and status update page 50 | * Q: Why would someone build a site or any components on the AMP ecosystem if they'd opt out of the AMP cache? Put another way, why should developers/organizations build a site in AMP? A: The runtime and components provide a good amount of performance bonuses on their own without the cache. Here users can decide to opt-out of the cache, use their own CDN, etc. 51 | * Q: Is it fair to say that the primary purpose of AMP now is to provide a way to accelerate developers/organizations to attain better core web vital metrics? A: This is a large part of how we think about it, yes. 52 | * Updates on accessibility. AMP is doing an audit with Tetralogical right now. 53 | * Q: How do we think about the distinction between AMP and PWAs? A: Fair question. They’re addressing different things. PWAs is more targeted at deployment, AMP at the presentation layer. Both can work together. 54 | * Q: Can you run through the timing of some of these projects? A: Off-cache AMP should come soon, before May 2021. A lot of the work with the CMS teams is rolling. Bento had a developer preview that went out last week. 55 | * Q: How do the working groups contribute to and implement planning directives? A: it’s a bottom-up approach. Example from the Infrastructure working group. Addressing how the dev. pain points work together comes from the PM/ Eng. managers (so bottom-down). Working group facilitators also play a key role in this feedback gathering. 56 | * Q: has the target user for AMP changed (example from publisher use case). Bento seems to be too much from some teams. A: We don’t think things should have to change for those users - the AMP plugins system should still work well without additional technical investment. Bento is a rewrite of existing components, making them smaller. 57 | * Q: Move to Bento AMP seems positive, but the upgrade path could be concerning. I’d like to know that I wouldn’t be penalized for _not_ upgrading if the current solution works? A: Any place developers want to “stop” is perfectly fine for us. We are not thinking about incentivizing the upgrade path. 58 | * Q: Any updates on payments, is this off the roadmap? A: Functionally yes, this is not taking priority. 59 | * Approve CWV Task Force [#180](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/180) 60 | * We would need a facilitator for this task force. We also want to put a deadline on this for deliverables. Please go to issue #180 to volunteer and discuss async. 61 | * Kristofer will talk to the Perf. WG to find an attendee from that group 62 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 63 | 64 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 65 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 66 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 67 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 68 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 69 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 70 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 71 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 72 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 73 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 74 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 75 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 76 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 77 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 78 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 79 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 80 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 81 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 82 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 83 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 84 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 85 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 86 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 87 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 88 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 89 | [kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 90 | [justinph]: https://github.com/justinph 91 | [twifkak]: https://github.com/twifkak 92 | [darobin]: https://github.com/darobin 93 | [MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 94 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-02-09.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **February 9, 2021 (EMEA/APAC)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/175](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/175) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel [(@tobie)][tobie] 12 | * Kenji Baheux [(@kenjibaheux)][kenjibaheux] 13 | * Faizan Siddiqi [(@siddiqifaizan)][siddiqifaizan] 14 | 15 | ## **Absent:** 16 | 17 | * Jett Jackson [(@j-tt)][j-tt] 18 | 19 | # **Minutes** 20 | 21 | * Approve last call's minutes. 22 | * Pull request was merged accidentally yesterday, but group approves the minutes. 23 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 24 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 25 | * Tobie to ask for agenda to be added earlier. 26 | * 2021 Roadmap Overview (slides). Guest: Naina Raisinghani (@nainar), Product Manager, AMP. 27 | * Faizan on his experience as a publisher in Pakistan. AMP first then PWA/AMP hybrid. 28 | * Add units really increased with PWA. 29 | * Add quality related to network quality. PWA helped solve this. 30 | * Suggest more PWA/AMP hybrid case studies. 31 | * AMP-first solution. 32 | * The whole website became PWA. 33 | * Used carousel as acquisition funnel. 34 | * Relied on service-worker component to install PWA. 35 | * Added opt-out option for PWA for non-English websites. 36 | * Average device in Pakistan was second-hand $60 app because of import duties. Essentially have three app categories on phones: 37 | * Money sending app 38 | * News 39 | * WhatsApp 40 | * As a result of storage issues, people would redownload apps all the time. So PWA became a huge competitive advantage that the publisher leveraged in TV commercials. 41 | * How do we enable PWA/AMP apps in KaiOS (which are becoming common devices in Pakistan)? 42 | * Approve CWV Task Force #180 43 | * Group feels like there are enough people on the ask force. Suggestion to add a perf WG member to the group. Added here: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/180#issuecomment-775865624](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/180#issuecomment-775865624) 44 | 45 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 46 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 47 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 48 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 49 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-02-22.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **February 22, 2021 (Americas/EMEA)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/182](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/182) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 13 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 14 | * Kristofer Baxter (Guest, AMP, [@kristoferbaxter][kristoferbaxter]) 15 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 16 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 17 | * Chris Papazian (Guest, AMP TSC, [@cpapazian][cpapazian]) 18 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 19 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 20 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 21 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 22 | * Eli Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 23 | 24 | ## **Absent:** 25 | 26 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 27 | 28 | ## **Excused:** 29 | 30 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 31 | * Candice Gleason ([@candice-womp][candice-womp]) 32 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 33 | 34 | # **Minutes:** 35 | 36 | * [Approve last call's minutes.](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/178) 37 | * Check roster for TSC & Design Review meetings. 38 | * Presentation and discussion about OpenJSF strategic efforts this year, in particular related to standards work. The Foundation wants to share some of the ideas the Standards Working Group is considering, and get the AC's input on other strategic programs being discussed. 39 | * Robin Ginn (@rginn), Executive Director OpenJSF. 40 | * Jory Burson (@jorydotcom), Community Manager OpenJSF. 41 | * CWV Task force: schedule first meeting 42 | * Idea: meeting next Monday; KJ has started a doc with questions & themes from past meetings to begin discussion; will reach out to schedule. 43 | * Deliverables idea: How CWV impacts the different “flavors” of AMP - other suggestions under consideration 44 | * Goal: Bring something back to the AC in ~4 weeks (CWV “goes live” in May) 45 | * Acknowledge resignation from @candice-womp, and review _interim_ member candidature. _Note this section is for AC members only, due to privacy considerations_. 46 | * Candice may join as a guest from time to time as able 47 | * Has nominated a colleague 48 | 49 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 50 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 51 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 52 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 53 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 54 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 55 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 56 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 57 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 58 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 59 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 60 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 61 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 62 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 63 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 64 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 65 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 66 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 67 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 68 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 69 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 70 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 71 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 72 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 73 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 74 | [kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 75 | [justinph]: https://github.com/justinph 76 | [twifkak]: https://github.com/twifkak 77 | [darobin]: https://github.com/darobin 78 | [MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 79 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-02-23.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **February 23, 2021 (EMEA/APAC)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/182](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/182) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Faizan Siddiqi ([@siddiqifaizan][siddiqifaizan]) 13 | 14 | ## **Absent:** 15 | 16 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 17 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 18 | 19 | # **Minutes** 20 | 21 | * Approve last call's minutes. 22 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 23 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 24 | * Presentation and discussion about OpenJSF strategic efforts this year, in particular related to standards work. The Foundation wants to share some of the ideas the Standards Working Group is considering, and get the AC's input on other strategic programs being discussed. 25 | * CWV Task force: scheduled first meeting 26 | * Acknowledge resignation from [@candice-womp](https://github.com/candice-womp), and review _interim_ member candidature. _Note this section is for AC members only, due to privacy considerations._ 27 | * OK 28 | * Marketing focused task force - problem statement: how can I hire/train new developers who know AMP and PWA. 29 | * Organize events 30 | * Centralize AMP resources 31 | * Non traditional / out of the box AMP usage (breaking away from convention, interesting to understand how others solve local challenges, learn from them, and potential for application in different areas). 32 | * Community of people solving unconventional challenges. 33 | * KaiOS - 5 million users in Pakistan. Can we make AMP work on those? 34 | 35 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 36 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 37 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 38 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-03-08.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **March 8, 2021 (Americas/EMEA)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/184](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/184) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom][jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Chris Papazian (Guest, AMP TSC, [@cpapazian][cpapazian]) 13 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 14 | * Eli Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 15 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 16 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 17 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 18 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 19 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 20 | * Kasiana McLenaghan (Guest, AMP TSC, [@KasianaMac][KasianaMac]) 21 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 22 | * Kristofer Baxter (Guest, AMP, [@kristoferbaxter][kristoferbaxter]) 23 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 24 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 25 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 26 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 27 | 28 | ## **Absent:** 29 | 30 | * 31 | 32 | ## **Excused:** 33 | 34 | * 35 | 36 | # **Minutes:** 37 | 38 | * [Approve last call's minutes.](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/186) 39 | * Check roster for TSC & Design Review meetings 40 | * New TSC meetings for March not yet posted; 41 | * March 17 - Design review [https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/33109](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/33109) 42 | * March 10 - Design review https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/33110 43 | * Establishing additional task forces 44 | * Search placement/CWV led by Kelsey kicked off 45 | * Additional task force areas? 46 | * To what extent do we want to make “helping offboard publishers” part of our remit? 47 | * Other performance related issues (outside of search) were cited (see issues list); are these still relevant? 48 | * Focus on some concrete questions about perf/CWV could be good approach 49 | * AMP as a framework optimized for CWV - we need proof that this is accurate 50 | * Page performance vs. Web Vitals vs. Core Web Vitals 51 | * AMP as a turn-key experience for smaller publishers 52 | * Possibly too early to explore; underway to a certain extent within Wordpress community 53 | * Tighter collaboration with AMP engineers. Process to drive input via TSC lightly used. Is this still a good framework for involvement? Should we work on a new system? 54 | * Features of different constituencies - NYT vs a smaller publisher - may help determine how we answer this question 55 | * Point about the scope of the Mission/Vision of project being perhaps too broad to be able to focus on best supporting one constituency or another 56 | * Large publishers currently not well served 57 | * Can we collect problems/gaps that the different constituencies are having and transmitting them to the AMP engineering team (how). 58 | * How/can we make working groups more open to direct input from constituencies (as opposed to the multi-step ‘telephone’ game we use today) 59 | * Point about the AMP Components vs. the rulesets - AMP as a polyfill. 60 | * Task Force Identified: Kasiana, Kristofer, Naina, Jono, Tobie 61 | * What is the revised/better informed vision (outcomes) for AMP today? Is it time to revisit this? 62 | * What KPIs would we want to know about AMP - e.g. “was 2021 a good year for AMP?” 63 | * Interested: Sumo, Jeremy, Senthil 64 | * This also relates to the above point about how we could be better connected 65 | * Action: Sumo to file issue to capture 66 | 67 | * Check [issue board](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/projects/2). 68 | 69 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 70 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 71 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 72 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 73 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 74 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 75 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 76 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 77 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 78 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 79 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 80 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 81 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 82 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 83 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 84 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 85 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 86 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 87 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 88 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 89 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 90 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 91 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 92 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 93 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 94 | [kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 95 | [justinph]: https://github.com/justinph 96 | [twifkak]: https://github.com/twifkak 97 | [darobin]: https://github.com/darobin 98 | [MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 99 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-03-09.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **March 9, 2021 (EMEA/APAC)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/184](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/184) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 13 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 14 | 15 | ## **Absent:** 16 | 17 | * Faizan Siddiqi([@siddiqifaizan][siddiqifaizan]) 18 | 19 | # **Minutes** 20 | 21 | * Approve last call's minutes. 22 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 23 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 24 | * Update on KaiOS rendering engine: [https://www.kaiostech.com/kaios-technologies-and-mozilla-partner-to-enable-a-healthy-mobile-internet-for-everyone/](https://www.kaiostech.com/kaios-technologies-and-mozilla-partner-to-enable-a-healthy-mobile-internet-for-everyone/) 25 | * AMP as polyfill makes it more sustainable long term. 26 | * Jett interested to take part in a “long term vision task force.” 27 | * PPP discussion. Some updates here: [https://github.com/buettner/private-prefetch-proxy](https://github.com/buettner/private-prefetch-proxy) 28 | * Kenji to look in to presenting on this topic to the broader group. Will come back with one-pager/abstract and an idea of when the conversation could be had. 29 | 30 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 31 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 32 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 33 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-03-22.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **March 22, 2021 (Americas/EMEA)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/185](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/185) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | 10 | ## **Attendees:** 11 | 12 | * Chris Papazian (Guest, AMP TSC) 13 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 14 | * Eli Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 15 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 16 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 17 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 18 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 19 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 20 | * Kristofer Baxter (Guest, AMP) 21 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 22 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 23 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 24 | * Michael Chun ([@michaelwomple][michaelwomple]) 25 | 26 | ## **Excused:** 27 | 28 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 29 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 30 | 31 | # **Minutes:** 32 | 33 | * Welcome new _interim_ member Michael Chun (@michaelwomple). 34 | * Approve last call's [minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/187). 35 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 36 | * Check roster for [Design reviews](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/labels/Type%3A%20Design%20Review). 37 | * Organize next meetings wrt daylight savings 38 | * Agree to move forward anchoring on daylight savings 39 | * CWV TF requested a delay to report its findings to the AC. 40 | * Continue breaking down 2021 focus into task forces: 41 | * [#162](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/162) – Standards 42 | * [#163](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/163) – Marketing 43 | * Growth plan vs communication plan with existing community 44 | * Growth plan needs output of long term vision first 45 | * Com plan can be done in parallel 46 | * [#164](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/164) – Privacy 47 | * A new dedicated component exists, few people seemed to have heard about it. 48 | * Communication issue again. 49 | * Invite outreach group 50 | * [#165](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/165) – Core Web Vitals 51 | * [#180](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/180) – CWV Task Force 52 | * [#166](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/166) – AMP & Search 53 | * Communication issue again + CWV Task Force 54 | * Other 55 | * Long term vision for AMP. See also [#166 (comment)](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/166#issuecomment-745219493). 56 | * Sumo, Senthil, Jono, Jeremy 57 | * Better channeling of inputs within the project 58 | 59 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 60 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 61 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 62 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 63 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 64 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 65 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 66 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 67 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 68 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 69 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 70 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 71 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 72 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 73 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 74 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 75 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 76 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 77 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 78 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 79 | [jeffjose]: https://github.com/jeffjose 80 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 81 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 82 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 83 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 84 | [kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 85 | [justinph]: https://github.com/justinph 86 | [twifkak]: https://github.com/twifkak 87 | [darobin]: https://github.com/darobin 88 | [MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 89 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 90 | [michaelwomple]: https://github.com/michaelwomple 91 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-03-23.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **March 23, 2021 (EMEA/APAC)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/185](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/185) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 13 | 14 | ## **Absent:** 15 | 16 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 17 | * Faizan Siddiqi([@siddiqifaizan][siddiqifaizan]) 18 | 19 | # **Minutes** 20 | 21 | * Quick update of conversations that happened on the 22nd. 22 | * Meeting adjourned. 23 | 24 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 25 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 26 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 27 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 28 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-04-06.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # **April 6, 2021 (EMEA/APAC)** 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/189](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/189) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## **Attendees:** 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 13 | * Faizan Siddiqi([@siddiqifaizan][siddiqifaizan]) 14 | 15 | ## **Excused:** 16 | 17 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 18 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 19 | 20 | # **Minutes** 21 | 22 | * Approve last call's [minutes](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/190). 23 | * Check roster for TSC meeting (no agenda yet). 24 | * Check roster for [Design reviews](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Type%3A+Design+Review%22) (no agenda yet). 25 | * Update from the TSC's last meeting. 26 | * Daylights savings: Tobie to email participants to see what they want to do. 27 | * CWV task force update and new CWV-related Google FAQ. 28 | * New Long-term Vision task force ([#191](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/191)). 29 | * Communication strategy 30 | * Poll on providing input to the project? 31 | * Find someone at Google (DM DevRels on Twitter, talk to Google account manager) and get intro to the right person. 32 | * Inconsistent places to find answers, but generally found answers in docs. 33 | * What would be the desired way to provide input to the project? 34 | * “Joining the AC was my solution” 35 | * Meeting minutes are hard to find (not only the AC, but also other WGs and the TSC). Super useful to understand to understand the _why_ behind decisions. 36 | * How are you getting information about the project? 37 | * The whenever-ly newsletter (content is usually delayed from what the blog is providing) 38 | * Roadmap feels like an update GH log 39 | * All of what’s in “What’s Next” section should be consolidated. 40 | * What would you like to see? 41 | * Better roadmap vs. a log 42 | * Does the team reach out to any of you prior to building new features? 43 | * No outreach 44 | * Can we upvote features we’d like to see implemented? 45 | 46 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 47 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 48 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 49 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 50 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 51 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-05-03.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # May 3, 2021 (Americas/EMEA) 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/194](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/194) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: @tobie 6 | 7 | Scribe: @jorydotcom 8 | 9 | ## Attendees: 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Naina Raisinghani (Guest, AMP) 13 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 14 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 15 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 16 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 17 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 18 | * Kristofer Baxter (Guest, AMP) 19 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 20 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 21 | * Joey Rozier ([@mrjoro][mrjoro]) 22 | 23 | ## Excused: 24 | 25 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 26 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 27 | 28 | ## Absent: 29 | 30 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 31 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 32 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 33 | * Michael Chun ([@michaelwomple][michaelwomple]) 34 | 35 | # Minutes 36 | 37 | * Approve last call's minutes. 38 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 39 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 40 | * Supporting Experiment Control 41 | * Analytics in AMP - session windows 42 | * AMP Developer Survey Report. Guest: Naina Raisinghani ([@nainar][nainar]) 43 | * Goal of the survey was to better understand the developer experience of AMP. Longitudinal understanding - what are the common dev environments, how satisfied are they using AMP, what do they see the benefits/hindrances of AMP, etc. 44 | * CWV Task Force Report ([#180](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/180)) ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 45 | * TF reported on consensus to close the TF following the release of Google's updated FAQ. 46 | * Report that ([ampproject/amphtml#32195](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/32195)) has been completed. 47 | * Other business: 48 | * Discussion about measuring AMP's success. Suggestion to move it to the Long-term Vision TF first, and eventually create a joint session with the TSC following that. 49 | 50 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 51 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 52 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 53 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 54 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 55 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 56 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 57 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 58 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 59 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 60 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 61 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 62 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 63 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 64 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 65 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 66 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 67 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 68 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 69 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 70 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 71 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 72 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 73 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 74 | [kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 75 | [MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 76 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 77 | [michaelwomple]: https://github.com/michaelwomple 78 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-05-04.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # May 4, 2021 (EMEA/APAC) 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/194](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/194) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## Attendees: 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Faizan Siddiqi ([@siddiqifaizan][siddiqifaizan]) 13 | 14 | ## Absent: 15 | 16 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt][j-tt]) 17 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux][kenjibaheux]) 18 | 19 | # Minutes 20 | 21 | * Meeting adjourned as only one member was present. 22 | 23 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 24 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 25 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 26 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 27 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 28 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-05-17.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # May 17, 2021 (Americas/EMEA) 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/195](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/195) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## Attendees: 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie][tobie]) 12 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert][marissa-halpert]) 13 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe][wirelessjoe]) 14 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp][senthilp]) 15 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa][gui-poa]) 16 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson][jono-alderson]) 17 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8][kelseyjohnson8]) 18 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie][baconjulie]) 19 | * Kristofer Baxter (Guest, AMP) 20 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas][sumodas]) 21 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler][tpchandler]) 22 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio][adactio]) 23 | * Pablo Delgado ([@pdelgadorodriguez][pdelgadorodriguez]) 24 | * Michael Chun ([@michaelwomple][michaelwomple]) 25 | * David Gehring ([@davidgehring][davidgehring]) 26 | * Sam Parnell ([@samparnell]) 27 | 28 | ## Excused: 29 | 30 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud][elibud]) 31 | * Joey Rozier ([@mrjoro][mrjoro]) 32 | 33 | ## Absent: 34 | 35 | 36 | # Minutes 37 | 38 | * Approve last call's minutes. 39 | * Delayed as minutes weren’t ready 40 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 41 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 42 | * Proposal to deprecate about a third of AMP components [https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/34217](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/34217) 43 | * Long term vision TF update 44 | * AMP as a format. Guest presentation from [@davidgehring] and [@samparnell] of Distributed Media Labs (DML). DML relies on the AMP format to organize content syndication. 45 | * Topics discussed following the presentation: 46 | * What problems does AMP help solve for DML? It provides a portable format. 47 | * How is AMP different from RSS? RSS is about broadcasting but isn’t designed to transfer rich content. AMP fills that gap. 48 | * What about Portals? It seems portals aren’t focused on solving the content portability aspects. 49 | * Origin-less content is also an interesting use case for AMP which DML actually deploys (content that is only available for syndication). 50 | * Content Aggregation Technology. David regrets that the open standard aspect of MP hasn’t been emphasized enough and that as a result AMP is perceived too much as a Google project which adversely affects it. 51 | 52 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 53 | [wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 54 | [sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 55 | [senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 56 | [elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 57 | [gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 58 | [pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 59 | [marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 60 | [candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 61 | [jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 62 | [baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 63 | [kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 64 | [adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 65 | [mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 66 | [jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 67 | [DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 68 | [cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 69 | [dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 70 | [rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 71 | [KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 72 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 73 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 74 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 75 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 76 | [kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 77 | [MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 78 | [nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 79 | [michaelwomple]: https://github.com/michaelwomple 80 | [davidgehring]: https://github.com/davidgehring 81 | [@davidgehring]: https://github.com/davidgehring 82 | [@samparnell]: https://github.com/samparnell 83 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-05-18.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # May 18, 2021 (EMEA/APAC) 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/194](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/194) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie][tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie][tobie] 8 | 9 | ## Attendees: 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel [(@tobie)][tobie] 12 | * Faizan Siddiqi [(@siddiqifaizan)][siddiqifaizan] 13 | * Kenji Baheux [(@kenjibaheux)][kenjibaheux] 14 | 15 | ## Absent: 16 | 17 | * Jett Jackson [(@j-tt)][j-tt] 18 | 19 | # Minutes 20 | 21 | * Approve last call's minutes. 22 | * Delayed as minutes weren’t ready 23 | * Check roster for TSC meeting. 24 | * Check roster for Design reviews. 25 | * Proposal to deprecate about a third of AMP components [https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/34217](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/34217) 26 | * Long term vision TF update 27 | * AMP as a format (DML presentation and discussion) 28 | 29 | [tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 30 | [tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 31 | [j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 32 | [SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 33 | [kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 34 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-06-14.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # June 14, 2021 (Americas/EMEA) 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/196](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/196) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@jorydotcom] 8 | 9 | ## Attendees: 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie]) 12 | * Jono Alderson ([@jono-alderson]) 13 | * Guilherme Moser de Souza ([@gui-poa]) 14 | * Marissa Halpert ([@marissa-halpert]) 15 | * Julie Bacon ([@baconjulie]) 16 | * Elisa Budelli ([@elibud]) 17 | * Kelsey Johnson ([@kelseyjohnson8]) 18 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp]) 19 | * Michael Chun ([@michaelwomple]) 20 | * Senthil Padmanabhan ([@senthilp]) 21 | * Leonie Watson ([@LJWatson]) 22 | 23 | ## Excused: 24 | 25 | * Jeremy Keith ([@adactio]) 26 | * Joe Alicata ([@wirelessjoe]) 27 | * Joey Rozier ([@mrjoro]) 28 | * Sumantro Das ([@sumodas]) 29 | 30 | ## Absent: 31 | 32 | * Tom Chandler ([@tpchandler]) 33 | 34 | # Minutes 35 | 36 | * Approve minutes for last two meetings ([#199](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/199), [#200](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/pull/200)). 37 | * Check roster for [TSC meeting](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-tsc/labels/TSC%20Meeting). 38 | * No topics as of now. 39 | * Check roster for [Design reviews](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/labels/Type%3A%20Design%20Review). 40 | * Next Design review meeting is June 16 (EU friendly time); also no topics as of now. 41 | * No one was able to attend the last meeting which covered some deprecated components. 42 | * Formalizing the Long-term vision TF ([#191](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/191)). 43 | * TF solidified its scope, deliverables, and end date. The AC retroactively approves its creation. 44 | * TF is planning to come back to the AC with a report to be discussed during the AC’s next meeting (June 28). Plan is to turn it into a joint session with the TSC. 45 | * Accessibility update. Guest: [@LJWatson](https://github.com/LJWatson) 46 | * Relevant issue: [#62](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/62) 47 | * [@LJWatson](https://github.com/LJWatson) provided overview of the accessibility work her firm,Tetralogical, has done and has planned. 48 | * Accessibility audit of a selection of AMP components against WCAG 2.1 49 | * [Issues](https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/created_by/tetralogicalhelpdesk) filed against main repo 50 | * Reviewing and updating documentation. Found opportunities to add accessibility into the documentation, advice, and contributing to AMP sections. 51 | * Decided to blend accessibility documentation with main documentation so as not to silo accessibility concerns. 52 | * 30-40 components have been improved so far. 53 | * Similar work on AMP Stories following the same approach. 54 | * Upcoming project focuses on another 16 components. 55 | * Tetralogical is not tracking the completion of the issues. 56 | * Currently 17 issues closed, 54 still open. 57 | * How big are these issues? Complexity is hard to evaluate from the perspective of accessibility experts who aren’t necessarily familiar with the code base. 58 | * Need more AMP community to “pull with equal energy” to review and approve PRs in a timely fashion. 59 | * Possible ways the AC can help: 60 | * Accessibility drive during AMP Contributor Summit 61 | * Discuss options with OpenJSF 62 | * Event where AMP devs pair with accessibility experts using zoom breakouts (very successful and fun according to [@LJWatson]) 63 | * Assessed progress made against [issue #62](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/62) and updated it accordingly. 64 | * Next steps 65 | * AMP blog post on the accessibility effort ([@tobie] to coordinate with [@LJWatson](https://github.com/LJWatson) and Outreach WG). 66 | * [@tobie] to check whether documentation contains recommendations re browser/assistive tech combos. 67 | 68 | [@wirelessjoe]: https://github.com/wirelessjoe 69 | [@sumodas]: https://github.com/sumodas 70 | [@senthilp]: https://github.com/senthilp 71 | [@elibud]: https://github.com/elibud 72 | [@gui-poa]: https://github.com/gui-poa 73 | [@pdelgadorodriguez]: https://github.com/pdelgadorodriguez 74 | [@marissa-halpert]: https://github.com/marissa-halpert 75 | [@candice-womp]: https://github.com/candice-womp 76 | [@jono-alderson]: https://github.com/jono-alderson 77 | [@baconjulie]: https://github.com/baconjulie 78 | [@kelseyjohnson8]: https://github.com/kelseyjohnson8] 79 | [@adactio]: https://github.com/adactio 80 | [@tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 81 | [@tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 82 | [@michaelwomple]: https://github.com/michaelwomple 83 | 84 | [@DavidStrauss]: https://github.com/DavidStrauss 85 | [@cpapazian]: https://github.com/cpapazian 86 | [@dvoytenko]: https://github.com/dvoytenko 87 | [@rudygalfi]: https://github.com/rudygalfi 88 | [@KasianaMac]: https://github.com/KasianaMac 89 | [@mrjoro]: https://github.com/mrjoro 90 | 91 | [@kristoferbaxter]: https://github.com/kristoferbaxter 92 | [@nainar]: https://github.com/nainar 93 | 94 | [@jorydotcom]: https://github.com/jorydotcom 95 | [@MadisonMiner]: https://github.com/MadisonMiner 96 | [@LJWatson]: https://github.com/LJWatson 97 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/2021-06-15.md: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | # June 15, 2021 (EMEA/APAC) 2 | 3 | Agenda: [https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/196](https://github.com/ampproject/meta-ac/issues/196) 4 | 5 | Facilitator: [@tobie] 6 | 7 | Scribe: [@tobie] 8 | 9 | ## Attendees: 10 | 11 | * Tobie Langel ([@tobie]) 12 | 13 | ## Excused: 14 | 15 | * Kenji Baheux ([@kenjibaheux]) 16 | * Faizan Siddiqi ([@siddiqifaizan]) 17 | 18 | ## Absent: 19 | 20 | * Jett Jackson ([@j-tt]) 21 | 22 | # Minutes 23 | 24 | * Meeting adjourned. 25 | 26 | [@tobie]: https://github.com/tobie 27 | [@tpchandler]: https://github.com/tpchandler 28 | [@j-tt]: https://github.com/j-tt 29 | [@SiddiqiFaizan]: https://github.com/SiddiqiFaizan 30 | [@kenjibaheux]: https://github.com/kenjibaheux 31 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /meetings/images/triangle.png: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ampproject/meta-ac/126087c6faba1ed73809df05be66cce95facfb91/meetings/images/triangle.png --------------------------------------------------------------------------------